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Public school resentment of foreigners?
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rickhorton44



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: resentment Reply with quote

I haven't noticed any resentment at my school. The English department here is all women and two men. Myself and a former Katusa soldier. He's really cool and often talks to me. As for the women, they are mostly first year teachers, so they are fairly young.

Also at my school, I think the administration is very sensitive when it comes to dealing with me because they have lost two teachers in the past. They are careful not to offend or piss me off because they know I could leave as well.
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inspector gadget



Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Location: jeollanam-do in the boonies

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My middle school teachers are prettycool, they majority of them are very friendly although Istay out of the plitics as well. I just come and do my job and ignore anything that doesn't pertain to my english classes, like the beatings and such that goes on in these schools.

Every second Wednesday teachers from the three mid and high schools in my village get together toplay volleyball and cho-ku (feet volleyball). The first time we did that I was suprised that they don't change positions. After five months though I know why they don't, its all about the ego of a few players that think they are the best athletes on the planet. These guys are ball hogs in the worst way. last time out I told two of them to let other people play in the game and they were shocked and they said, "we best, fighting". I laughed and went back to standing on the court doing nothing but watch a two man show.

absolutley hilarious and the thing is they are not very good.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear ya man, I tried explaining numerous times to the guy in the spot next to me to set the ball on the second hit instead of just smacking it any which way.....he never got it and every time would try to slam it over the net, man it was frustrating, especially since the other team had a good set and spike routine going on which was killing us. He was a real glory hog i guess. Also, anytime i tried to move to another position the VP who was on my team would always say "no!!!!!you blocking!!!!only blocking!". sheesh!
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rickhorton44



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: volleyball Reply with quote

I went to play on a Korean club team. They play 9's with no rotating. In thier opinion it is specialization. The people in the back are defensive specialist, while the three in the front are spikers and blockers. Many times it's a height thing.

Anyway, they play 3,3,3 with the second set of three one of them being a setter. It's quite different from real volleyball.
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You do realize that the Koreans probably put in double the hours that you do....right?


Wrong. But thanks for playing!


The only ones who work more than the usual hours at my school are the department heads, who do put in a ton of hours. But that's strictly because 99% of them are on the vice-principal, principal track. That's not even an OPTION for you, so forget about it.

I haven't noticed any resentment, other than that from the guy whose first words to me were "I don't like Americans." Kinda like that freak in Star Wars in the cantina scene. And yes, I did chop his arm off with an exacto knife.
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marcus



Joined: 12 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work longer hours than some of the korean teachers at my school and when they start whining about not having enough time and being busy, I resent them.

It has nothing to do with being a foreigner. If you see somebody that's putting in less time than you and they're complaining, it's a natural human response to want to hit them.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marcus wrote:
It has nothing to do with being a foreigner. If you see somebody that's putting in less time than you and they're complaining, it's a natural human response to want to hit them.


I suppose. But I like to express myself and straighten things out that bother me.
If they wanted to correct me by informing me I do less work and am a lucky spoiled waygook, I wouldn't have minded.
On the surface it seemed fair to mention how i felt about it. I work the same hours as them, but they get 5 weeks holiday as opposed to my 2.
Instead of "putting me straight" they go quiet and talk behind your back.

The whole resentment issues Koreans get could simply be resolved by putting foreign public school teachers on the same conditions as korean teachers. As was the case before, i guess. Maybe koreans like giving themselves reasons to dislike foreigners?

Being assertive is a dangerous thing in the Korean workplace apparently.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you have access to the Korean description, rubric, outline, what have you, of the pay scales, benefits, tenure conditions for Korean teachers?


Flotsam...you just opened the gates of hell... Laughing

RR will now spue forth pay scales of Nuclear physicists at MIT, or Tenure track Professors at Oxford and say these are relevant to his English instructor position...arrrggg and lol... Laughing
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
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Do you have access to the Korean description, rubric, outline, what have you, of the pay scales, benefits, tenure conditions for Korean teachers?


Flotsam...you just opened the gates of hell... Laughing

RR will now spue forth pay scales of Nuclear physicists at MIT, or Tenure track Professors at Oxford and say these are relevant to his English instructor position...arrrggg and lol... Laughing


I've been rather surprised that there has been nothing yet.

I think he's gone doddy, that RR has. Lazy SOB.
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