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animalbirdfish
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Bill Romanowski and Lawrence Taylor were some tough buggers in their day, too. Dirty, but tough.
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bignate
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've played both rugby and football, rugby at the club level, and football at the University level, and they are both tough games, but there is a difference between them, and it essentially comes down to this.....
Rugby is a contact sport....tackling is very technical, and the form is important, and also prevents injuries...
Football is a collision sport....tackling can be very technical, but often involves people as projectiles....
They are both equally physical, to say one or the other is less, means you don't know what the hell you are talking about, and are probably a *beep* to begin with..... |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| bignate wrote: |
Rugby is a contact sport....tackling is very technical, and the form is important, and also prevents injuries...
Football is a collision sport....tackling can be very technical, but often involves people as projectiles.... |
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I couldn't have put it better myself.
Here's the deal with the pads. Players wear them so they can hit harder, not because they do. It's a defensive/protective measure for an offensive maneuver (a hit) performed by a defender. The pads allow the players to hit more aggressively, which in turn makes the sport more exciting. It's a revolutionary concept called "adaptation" that allows the sport to progress with the improved conditioning and physicality of the players instead of remaning in the dark ages.
Anyone who claims soccer/futbol as the "only" sport in the world has no merit to qualify what a "tough guy" is. How much you benching these days, Jinju? Satori?
God, this argument will never die. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Again, isnt it funny that women only wear pads when they are on the rag but football players need them all the time? Does that make a tough guy? |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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This coming from a fan of a sport whose "tough guys" writhe in agony for 10 minutes after getting their itty-bitty toesies stepped on.
If you've never taken a full-contact hit in either an organized football or rugby game, please exit this thread and refrain from any more "tough guy" comments.
Stick to the sidelines and take pictures of the action. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
This coming from a fan of a sport whose "tough guys" writhe in agony for 10 minutes after getting their itty-bitty toesies stepped on.
If you've never taken a full-contact hit in either an organized football or rugby game, please exit this thread and refrain from any more "tough guy" comments.
Stick to the sidelines and take pictures of the action. |
So whats with the pads? Do Romanowski and Taylor experience menstrual flows? Wouldnt surprise me one bit. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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here's one tough guy.
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howie2424
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The need to wear pads. What are they? Women on the rag? |
Jinju conveniently forgets that soccer players also wear pads. Notwithstanding this protection, they still hurt their shins, although, for some mysterious reason, in soccer, a leg injury results in an excrutiating headache. Go figure. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Walter Payton. Great and fearless. Nuff said. |
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inspector gadget
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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This topic was talked about in the recent past here. I too have played both sports and I couldn't agree more with Seoulsucker and big nate.
Jinju is just replying to stir things up, he likely has no idea of the physical requirements that are needed to play football or rugby and if he did he wouldn't be spouting off at the mouth AGAIN. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
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| I agree with Satori, there are no NFL touh guys. |
and you two would know this how?????" |
The need to wear pads. What are they? Women on the rag? |
no, that's what soccer players are. |
They are grown men who wear pads, costumes, masks, and make up, therefore they are queer. And hey, don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being queer...they're just queer that's all... |
so crying like a little girl after being touched on the arm is the toughest of things in my book. |
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beast
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To the people who say rugby is tougher, I have one question. At the end of a rugby match, how many concussions, torn ligaments, dislocations, blown out achilles were there? In the NFL you'll have at least two or three of the above per game. The helmet can be a very painful weapon.
To answer the original poster's question however, Jack Tatum and Earl Campbell come to mind. |
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animalbirdfish
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I've always found donkeys and mules to be the toughest SOBs on the field.
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JLarter
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| To the people who say rugby is tougher, I have one question. At the end of a rugby match, how many concussions, torn ligaments, dislocations, blown out achilles were there? In the NFL you'll have at least two or three of the above per game. |
So you're saying that NFL players are dumber than rugby players?
It seems to me that NFL players play to get hurt, as opposed to rugby players who play to enjoy a beautiful flowing game. |
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bignate
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: Hell's Ditch
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| JLarter wrote: |
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| To the people who say rugby is tougher, I have one question. At the end of a rugby match, how many concussions, torn ligaments, dislocations, blown out achilles were there? In the NFL you'll have at least two or three of the above per game. |
So you're saying that NFL players are dumber than rugby players?
It seems to me that NFL players play to get hurt, as opposed to rugby players who play to enjoy a beautiful flowing game. |
I concur with this, a lot of players go out to intentionally hurt someone, to end their career...it is sad that is it more prominent in football, one of the things that I truely dislike about the sport.
Some coaches teach this - one example is low blocks, though technically legal in some cases, some coaches want you to attack the knee of a player just to hurt them. Another is the proverbial, taking a shot at the quarterback, either high or low, or both....the intention is to hurt the player so that he can't play...it is part of the game and I hate the fact that it is...
Back on topic however...................some tough guys...
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