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Tiger Beer
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Most of my lucid dreaming always involved flying. I'd be in some situation where I'd be extremely high above the ground.. realize I am dreaming.. and then have the ability to fly or do whatever I want. Funny that this awareness of being in the dream world always came about in that situation only.
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Something else. Anyone ever experience some place in their dreams. A house or town.. somewhere you know infinitely well.. but upon waking up you realize its nowhere you've ever been before? |
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holeinthesky
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Sadang.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Something else. Anyone ever experience some place in their dreams. A house or town.. somewhere you know infinitely well.. but upon waking up you realize its nowhere you've ever been before? |
previous life^^ |
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merlot
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| holeinthesky wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Something else. Anyone ever experience some place in their dreams. A house or town.. somewhere you know infinitely well.. but upon waking up you realize its nowhere you've ever been before? |
previous life^^ |
Or Carl Jung's ideas--collective consciousness, which could explain, actually could be One in the same as "previous lives," would be a much easier concept to accept...I think...therefore I...no, I won't say it. I'm going to sleep now. What a night I had, it�s 3 AM. I anticipate dreams that reflect what is really going in inside, not what I think is, but what is is�we�ll see� |
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re:cursive
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| Most of my lucid dreaming always involved flying. I'd be in some situation where I'd be extremely high above the ground.. realize I am dreaming.. and then have the ability to fly or do whatever I want. Funny that this awareness of being in the dream world always came about in that situation only. |
I agree...often a flying experience is one of the first things to snap me out of passively watching a piece of dream cinema and becoming consciously involved. For me it is usually triggered by a series of physical sensations that somewhat "wake me up" into the dream space (The transition is usually marked by a seemingly chemical rush that brings me into conscious contact with both the dream and the external awareness that I am dreaming) .
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| Something else. Anyone ever experience some place in their dreams. A house or town.. somewhere you know infinitely well.. but upon waking up you realize its nowhere you've ever been before? |
Yes...and I have also experienced this in waking dreams (often more powerfully). I think that in some sense the human psyche has the ability to intimately know any location whether physical or apparently abstract. I have experienced some instances of visiting, as far as my life story goes, a significant location after I have apparently dreamt of them and have had a seemingly intimate awareness of them (This also goes for individuals and events). I have also had the similar experiences based on what I consider to be "false" memories from my childhood.
If you are aware of the temporal and spatial processing potential of the human brain/bio-computer, let alone some of the other data and/or theories as to the nature of reality, these instances do not seem that extraordinary.
And to Ya-ta boy...yes I do have some narcissistic tendencies. What can i say?...I'm working on it. |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| merlot wrote: |
| Or Carl Jung's ideas--collective consciousness[.] |
Jung wrote about the collective unconscious, not the collective conscious. Big difference.
Time does not exist outside of our own limited perception, so it seems perfectly reasonable to think that consciousness would not be bound by temporal limitations. Bucke's Cosmic Consciousness discussed all that quite nicely. RAW has also discussed such matters in several of his books.
Namaste. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| holeinthesky wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Something else. Anyone ever experience some place in their dreams. A house or town.. somewhere you know infinitely well.. but upon waking up you realize its nowhere you've ever been before? |
previous life^^ |
I've always felt it was something in the spirit world. A place in another world where your spirit spends time before and after 'living the human experience'. Also a place your spirit retreats to occassionally in the dreamworld while living the human existance.
I'd think in my past lives, I probably lived in places that little resembled somewhat modern types of housing. |
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merlot
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
| merlot wrote: |
| Or Carl Jung's ideas--collective consciousness[.] |
Jung wrote about the collective unconscious, not the collective conscious. Big difference.
Time does not exist outside of our own limited perception, so it seems perfectly reasonable to think that consciousness would not be bound by temporal limitations. Bucke's Cosmic Consciousness discussed all that quite nicely. RAW has also discussed such matters in several of his books.
Namaste. |
Yes, I stand corrected--wrong word and a huge difference indeed.
I really got more out of Jung�s synchronicity theories than I did anything else.
Dr. Bucke's book is a great resource of case studies. It's one of the books I'd run out of my house with if it were on fire. I think I first discovered the book after reading something by De Ropp; I'm not sure.
Actually, there were many good books published within a few years of each other dealing with the subjects discussed here (all around 1900). In addition to Bucke�s Cosmic Consciousness, this is about the time that The Varieties of Religious Experience by William James came out and also Evelyn Underwood�s classic, Mysticism, as well as many others.
The turn of the century yeilded us some real spiritual treasures. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| As one who very, VERY seldom remembers even one dream a month, I find people who want to talk about dreams in public to be very narcissistic. At least with a sex partner there were two of you there. |
Someone who is too self-righteous for a discussion on the forbidden indulgence of dreaming.
Only on ESL Cafe, folks. Only on ESL Cafe. |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| merlot wrote: |
| I really got more out of Jung�s synchronicity theories than I did anything else. |
Jung seemed too trepid to put some of the pieces together. RAW seems to have done a much better job of that, devoting Coincidance for that sole purpose (and what a fine romp!).
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| The turn of the century yeilded us some real spiritual treasures. |
That it did. The rise and fall of the Theosophists, Anthroposophists, Spiritualists, Crookes et al, etc, all make for some exciting history.
Namaste. |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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i've had them a few times.
it's been happening a bit more lately, but just for short bursts...usually when something scary is happening in my dream.
like if i dream that someone's trying to break into my house & there's no door knob or lock, i get this "hey! this is a dream, i can make the lock appear and stop all this!"
and there's the lock, all is well and i go back to the randomness of the dream. |
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pidgin
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I used to put a rubberband on my wrist for the day and snap it everytime I thought about lucid dreaming. I caught myself snapping it in my dream a few times and it tended to bring on lucidity. I also wrote out my dreams often to increase dream recall.
Another method that worked quite well for me depended on a few circumstances. 1.) Being very tired 2.) Having the time to nap for 2-3 hours only (higher dream recall as opposed to an overnight sleep) and 3.) repeating (in my mind) as I'm drifting off to sleep..."I am dreaming, I am dreaming, I am dreaming."
I then often experienced loud crackling noises and the feeling of propelling down a tube of some sort only to arrive intact in the dream world..fully aware. From that instant (if excitement didn't pull me out, as happened often in the beginning) any thought, any notion, any person, any place was mine to explore. I tended to focus on sex with the astral bodies of people I knew and/or famous stars in the beginning and later graduated to flying ( I swear the feeling is equal to an orgasm), moving through solid objects, breathing underwater, and playing intense war games with strangers that frequented that plane.
For some unknown reason I stopped practicing after I left Saudi...perhaps I had too much time on my hands in the desert(?), but thanks to this thread, I shall start practicing again. Thanks to the OP.
PS: Perhaps one good thing about split shifts is the ability to nap in the day (high dream recall) |
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mole
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting interpretations, but you guys are just having DTs. |
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