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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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 Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Jews Turn into Apes and Pigs in an Clay-mation Film for Children on Hizbullah TV
Iranian Animated Film for Children Promotes Suicide Bombings
Mothers of Hizbullah "Martyrs": We Are Very Happy And Want to Sacrifice More Children
http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=165&P3=1
Yes, both sides are equally to blame.
And on a lighter note
Syrian Deputy Minister of Religious Endowments, Muhammad Abd Al-Sattar Al-Sayyid: AIDS Patients Should Be Stoned before Spreading Their Disease
http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=86 |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| Great come back, BV. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm persuaded. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: |
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If you can find any examples of children in Israel, or the West being taught to explictly hate Muslims, with official sanction (let alone on national television by a senior cleric!) then you may have a point.
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If a Jewish person takes his children to live as a settler in territory that is subject to armed dispute between Jews and Muslims, I would say that at the very least he is deliberately putting them into an extremely antagonistic relationship with Muslims.
Sorry, but I can't think of any reason why someone would move from Europe or America to the occupied territories unless he WANTED to become part of a violent conflict. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| Great comeback to what? I didn't notice you make anything resembling an intelligent remark. |
What I am doing is clearly demonstrating the level of officially sanctioned Jew hatred in the Arab/Muslim world. What you have is one picture of girls writing messages on bombs aimed at terrorists. To you this demonstrates that both sides are equally deplorable. To those of us with some intelligence the difference is quite obvious. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: |
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To those of us with some intelligence the difference is quite obvious..
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I would agree with your claim of 'some' intelligence. You are literate. Beyond that, I would not go. In fact, I can't remember any post on this forum saying you go beyond literate. Unfortunately, mere literacy is not enough. Fear and hate are not enough. I think you are a coward. A sniveling, wimpering coward. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| I would agree with your claim of 'some' intelligence. You are literate. Beyond that, I would not go. In fact, I can't remember any post on this forum saying you go beyond literate. Unfortunately, mere literacy is not enough. Fear and hate are not enough. I think you are a coward. A sniveling, wimpering coward. |
You have revealed yourself time and time again to be a man who resorts to insults as soon as it becomes clear that you are out of your depth. It is a clear demonstration of both your ignorance about the matters being discussed and your own below average intellect. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Look again at the picture, look at the Israeli girl. I'd bet a million bucks she knows exactly what she is doing and that no Israeli adult encouraged her to write something on a bomb. In fact I wouldn't be one bit surprised if her twin sister decided to come to the OPPOSITE conclusion and argue to stop sending a bomb towards people hell bent on your destruction. And if such a case were to happen, I simply cannot fathom an Israeli family upset at either of their free-thinking daughters taking a stand, opposite as it may be. For that is civilization, when people can agree to disagree. |
Wow. That's an admirable sentiment Sundub.
How's it fit in with this kind of thing though??
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What a pathetic attempt to achieve a lefty loonie sense of moral equivalence.....
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Be fair dude there is an equivalence in morals in behaviour on both sides. Both are engaging in war, both are killing innocents. Equal morally in what it is they do. But, I agree, the way in which it's done.... not so much.
It's f*cked up that some kid is born into a war that means his life is sacrificed, by being indoctrinated. To my mind, it is better that an older child is put in a position of being killed, or killing, by being drafted, but not by much.
It's war - what do you expect? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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The ex-president said the best solution to the Middle East conflict is an interim settlement that would "establish a Palestinian state now."
But he stressed that the creation of such a state must be preceded by security assurances for Israel and a timetable to resolve other issues.
Clinton said Arafat made a "disastrous mistake" by turning down past peace proposals that would have given the Palestinian leader control of 97 percent of the West Bank.
Yet, Clinton said, "There is reason for hope.
"I think this will be resolved on the terms the Palestinians walked away from." |
the same? |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: |
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BigVerne wrote:
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If you can find any examples of children in Israel, or the West being taught to explictly hate Muslims, with official sanction (let alone on national television by a senior cleric!) then you may have a point.
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If a Jewish person takes his children to live as a settler in territory that is subject to armed dispute between Jews and Muslims, I would say that at the very least he is deliberately putting them into an extremely antagonistic relationship with Muslims.
Sorry, but I can't think of any reason why someone would move from Europe or America to the occupied territories unless he WANTED to become part of a violent conflict. |
Ummm, someone moving from inner city Brooklyn to a farming village on a hill in their ancestor's ancient land???? And remember, unlike the what 1/2 of Earth colonized by English/French/Spanish/ Protuguese/Arabic/Russian speaking empires, this person is willing to adopt his ancestor's ancient tongue in the same geographic locale in which it was once spoken......
Possibly he or she would make such a move to get away from hippocritical Euro-imperialists such as yourself.
the more I read this crap, the more I am sure that anyone who is opposed to Jews living in the land that comprised historic Israel, is a future member of the Aryan Nation. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Ummm, someone moving from inner city Brooklyn to a farming village on a hill in their ancestor's ancient land???? |
Yeah, I guess it's that ancient part that kinda throws me for a loop. Plus, the fact that people living in the occupied territories have chosen to live in the most contested place in the middle east.
Let's say someone whose ancestors left Bosnia for America 200 years ago decides in the mid-1990s that he's suddenly seized with a partiotic fervour, and goes to live not just in the Balkans, but right in Sarajevo, during the worst period of ethnic strife. Then, when he gets there, he complains that he and his family are being subjected to hatred and violence.
What would you say about this guy? Would you applaud his sense of cultural identity, and wonder how on earth anyone could teach their children to hate him? Or would you say he's obviously a messed-up nutjob who puts his nationalist mania ahead of his own family's well-being? I know which side I come down on. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| Great come back, BV. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm persuaded. |
You should be, because you are off base here in assigning moral equivalency to what the Arab Middle East teaches its children and Israeli children writing messages (what do they say, anyway?) on Isreali bombs meant for terrorists.
If you go to the very origins of the problem, the earliest roots of the problem, you have the internationally-backed creation of Isreal followed by the Arab Middle East's childlike, obstinate rejection, and utter, indeed violent, refusal to coexist.
If I were an Isreali, surrounded by states who wanted nothing more than to annihilate me, my family, and my country, I might feel just as they feel. |
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WorldWide
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
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Hey, maybe the Palestinians should take them up on it. Oh, wait. The Soviet Union no longer exists.  |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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BigVerne wrote:
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If you can find any examples of children in Israel, or the West being taught to explictly hate Muslims, with official sanction (let alone on national television by a senior cleric!) then you may have a point.
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If a Jewish person takes his children to live as a settler in territory that is subject to armed dispute between Jews and Muslims, I would say that at the very least he is deliberately putting them into an extremely antagonistic relationship with Muslims.
Sorry, but I can't think of any reason why someone would move from Europe or America to the occupied territories unless he WANTED to become part of a violent conflict. |
Ummm, someone moving from inner city Brooklyn to a farming village on a hill in their ancestor's ancient land???? And remember, unlike the what 1/2 of Earth colonized by English/French/Spanish/ Protuguese/Arabic/Russian speaking empires, this person is willing to adopt his ancestor's ancient tongue in the same geographic locale in which it was once spoken......
Possibly he or she would make such a move to get away from hippocritical Euro-imperialists such as yourself.
the more I read this crap, the more I am sure that anyone who is opposed to Jews living in the land that comprised historic Israel, is a future member of the Aryan Nation. |
What an schmuck you are, Herschel.
If someone said, "Send the U.S. Jews to live in the land that comprised historic Israel", you'd call him a future member of the Aryan Nation. |
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rhys01
Joined: 12 Jun 2006
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Anyone else notice that this board represents in minature exactly what is happening in the middle east right now??? You said this - no you said this - yes but you did this - so i did that- yeah but you are a jerk - well you are more of a jerk because you said thsi - well *beep* you here's a bomb.
how can you possibly search for reason in this situation where there clearly is none>?
If I was living in Israel I would, at this moment, probably support any action against states or terrorist groups who were actively promoting the destruction of my home, family, religion and country.
However as an ordianairy civilian of a bombed, and devestated area - who's only image of Israel is a monstorus army bent on my destruction I would probably support shelling that state to hell and back.
Neither view is correct. Both are plauged by propoganda and lies.
Unfortunately human nature dictates that when we are pushed we push back stronger - and trying to decide who pushed first in this conflict is like arguing over the chicken and the egg.
Never mind who's to blame - how about how to solve the problem???? |
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