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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shebaa farms
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Origins (1923�67)
The dispute over the sovereignty of the Shebaa Farms resulted in part from the failure of the French Mandate administrations, and subsequently the Lebanese and Syrian governments, to properly demarcate the border between Lebanon and Syria.

In the 1923 Anglo-French Demarcation Agreement, which set the borders between the British and French mandates in Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon, the area was included in Syria.[6]

Documents from the 1920s and 1930s indicate that some local inhabitants regarded themselves as part of Lebanon, for example paying taxes to the Lebanese government, but that French officials often expressed confusion on the actual location of the border.[7] One French official in 1939 expressed the belief that the uncertainty was sure to cause trouble in the future.

The region continued to be represented in the 1930s and 1940s as Syrian territory, under the French mandate. Detailed maps showing the border were produced by the French in 1933, and again in 1945, "Beyrouth" 1:200,000 sheet NI36-XII available in the U.S. Library of Congress and French archives. They clearly showed the region to be in Syria.

Following France's exit from the region, the land was administered by Syria, and represented as such in all historical maps of the time. [8] But a commission responsible for demarcating the border in the decades after the French mandate ended in 1946 did not act decisively to delimit or demarcate this area.

The maps of the 1949 Armistice Agreements between Syria and Israel designated the area as Syrian.

Border disputes arose frequently. Starting in the late 1950s and ending in 1964, Syria and Lebanon formed a joint council to determine a proper border between the two nations. Shebaa Farms was not unique, as several other border villages had similar discrepancies of borders versus land ownership. In 1964 the joint Lebanese-Syrian border committee suggested to their governments that the Shebaa Farms area be deemed the property of Lebanon, and recommended that the international border be reestablished consistent with its suggestion. However, its suggestion was not adopted by Syria or Lebanon, and the countries did not take any actions along the suggested lines. Thus, the maps of the area continued to reflect the Farms as being in Syria. [8] Even maps of both the Syrian and Lebanese armies continued to demarcate the region within Syrian territory.[8]


A Lebanese military map, published in 1966, showing the Shebaa Farms as being on the Syrian side of the border.A number of local residents regarded themselves as Lebanese, however. The Lebanese government showed little interest in their views. The Syrian government administered the region, and on the eve of the 1967 war, the region was under effective Syrian control.

In 1967 most Shebaa Farms landowners and farmers (Lebanese) lived outside the Syrian-controlled region, across the Lebanon-Syrian border, in the Lebanese village of Shebaa. During the Six Day War, Israel captured the Farms from Syria. After Syria lost the land (to the Israelis) in 1967, the Lebanese landowners were no longer able to farm it.[9][10


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Lebanese media reaction to Lebanon's claim
A Lebanese newspaper, however, described the land deed of one Shebaa resident as "handwritten and signed on a yellowing piece of paper in pencil and ink." Moreover, it is quite common for Lebanese to own land in Syria, and vice versa.[19]

According to another Lebanese newspaper, Dar Al-Hayat, most Lebanese, in fact, had never heard or read about the Farms, even in their national school curricula. [24] "The issue over these farms was created to justify resistance operations from Lebanon after the UN had created the Blue Line following Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon. The Shebaa farms were placed inside Syrian territory. It should be noted that Syria, which claims that the farms are Lebanese, has not presented a single document to the UN to prove it. More than that, Syria refuses to demarcate its borders with Lebanon."[25]

In fact, on February 13, 2006, a Beirut Times article reported that Walid Jumblatt, Druze leader of the Progressive Socialist Party of Lebanon and Lebanese parliament member, displayed the map as a "fake map," with the boundary shifted.[20]

All period maps save one, an apparent forgery, show the land as being on the Syrian side of the border. In contrast to this forged 1966 map, submitted to the UN in 2000, all published maps showed the area to be within Syria. Lebanese army maps published in 1961 and 1966 clearly show the Shebaa Farms area (including Zebdine, Fashkoul, Mougr Shebaa, and Ramta) as being on the Syrian side of the border. All known Syrian maps, and all known Lebanese Ministry of Tourism maps, also show the Lebanese-Syrian border running west of the Shebaa Farms, which would place Shebaa Farms to the east of the border and therefore within Syria.[21]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebaa_Farms
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
Not a lot of real choice in that unless someone has the stomach to completely flatten Lebanon.


naw, just the bekka valley, and everything south of beirut. piece of cake.
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jinju



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is Israel allowed to keep THEIR weapons?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
Why is Israel allowed to keep THEIR weapons?


Because they would be eradicated otherwise. They are surrounded by angry and armed neighbors several of whom have publicly stated (now and in the past) that Israel must/should be wiped off the earth.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus it is a nation-state. Hizballah is an organization. SLIGHT difference.
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