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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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My parents were in the Peace Corp. for many years, so I lived with my grandparents a lot of the time in the U.K. My grandfather was a diplomat, so I had the opportunity to travel the world, years of experience in developed and third world nations.
I graduated from high school when I was 17 and finished my MSc at 22. I worked with databases for a couple of years, but wanted to get into International Business. After two years off in the Peace Corps, this is my first job.
This job pays about the same as when I worked with databases. So, it seems a little low since I have almost 4 years of work experience. But, sometimes I do get commission when I put in extra work. It is usually only a couple of thousand though.
I have to pay almost triple housing allowance for my new apartment. The one they got me was very small and didn't even have a panoramic view. To tell the truth, I have always been very coddled by my grands. So, I like to indulge myself as much as possible. Does that make me a bad person?
Anyways, thanks for your comments. Perhaps one day I will have my own business in Korea and give Cheonmunka a better job. My parents have always taught me to help the less fortunate. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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doesn't make you a bad person, but perhaps a bit immature. buidling wealth means living at or beyond your means. nice to have a great place, but it's nicer if you can safely afford it! i've seen so many of my friends brought up in luxury that tried to sustain their lifestyle on a standard salary, only to be sadled with loads of debt and no savings. the ones that stay the course end up with a better standard of living and lifestyle in the long run. i was always told growing up, 'yes, we have money...but YOU don't.' that lesson has served me well. maybe i'm just conservative.
is there any particular reason you want to be here in korea? with your languages and background, you'd probably do quite well in europe or a better paying asian market (e.g. japan, kh, or shanghi). never hurts to shop yourself around, particularly if you are young and unattached. cheers, and good luck to you. |
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Cheonmunka

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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I enjoy my job. It's perfect.
It's the pay parity issue that makes anyone on the lower rung discontent. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Do people in the west with 4 year of DBA experience pull down 100K a year for a 35 hour work week? Not in my experience. |
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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Do people in the west with 4 year of DBA experience pull down 100K a year for a 35 hour work week? Not in my experience. |
No, usually much more than that, but for 40 hours/week. |
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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
Oh, I enjoy my job. It's perfect.
It's the pay parity issue that makes anyone on the lower rung discontent. |
If you enjoy your job and it's perfect, why is the pay an issue? I know many people who hate their jobs, but the pay is very high. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You must consider yourself lucky to be in love with what you do. Hating your job is a lot worst than low pay. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| JollyJekins wrote: |
| Cheonmunka wrote: |
Oh, I enjoy my job. It's perfect.
It's the pay parity issue that makes anyone on the lower rung discontent. |
If you enjoy your job and it's perfect, why is the pay an issue? |
Try working with professional stock / futures traders. Some of the most disgruntled SOBs in the world.
boss: So how much did I make today?
me: $60,000
boss: %$&$^# is that all?
me: umm, yeah. sorry. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I went to Cambridge and UCE Birmingham, I hear the job outlook is very poor for Birbeck. Tzechuk, did you go to Birbeck? Where are you working? Just wondering...... |
Job prospect is poor at Birkbeck?! This is news to me. Everyone graduated with me back in 2002 has a job with a big international company in London and elsewhere.
Birkbeck is the first to have a BSc International Business course, so the one at UCE Birmingham is just copycat
I came straight to Korea after I finished my MSc on the invitation of the Ministry of Information and Technology to work in a start-up. |
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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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The Birmingham program is the best in the U.K. I had numerous job offers and took the one best suited for my unique education. I was offered jobs over Birbeck students.
How much do you make Tzechuk? What kind of start-up company do you work for? You obviously avoided my first question, "Where are you working?", because your company isn't as successful as mine.
Birmingham is a way better school than Birbeck, how dare you call them a copy cat. Why the heck would you come to Korea to work for a start-up company? I doubt that the Ministry of Information and Technology would invite a person with no experience that doesn't even speak the language to work, especially in a start-up company. Smells a little funny to me. 
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| TZ, be gentle with him - he knows not what he sayeth. |
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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| Wangja wrote: |
| TZ, be gentle with him - he knows not what he sayeth. |
Is that a lisp I detect Wangja or should I say Sparky?  |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Do people in the west with 4 year of DBA experience pull down 100K a year for a 35 hour work week? Not in my experience. |
No, usually much more than that, but for 40 hours/week. |
http://www.payscale.com/salary-survey/vid-3995/fid-6886
100K is high for less than 5-10 years experience. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| JollyJekins wrote: |
| Wangja wrote: |
| TZ, be gentle with him - he knows not what he sayeth. |
Is that a lisp I detect Wangja or should I say Sparky?  |
Ho! Ho! Ho! |
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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| Ooh-too-kay huffdaddy, is that an offer? I didn't know you door swings that way. |
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RokofKangnam

Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Location: Between a ROK and a Hard Place
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| JollyJekins wrote: |
The Birmingham program is the best in the U.K. I had numerous job offers and took the one best suited for my unique education. I was offered jobs over Birbeck students.
How much do you make Tzechuk? What kind of start-up company do you work for? You obviously avoided my first question, "Where are you working?", because your company isn't as successful as mine.
Birmingham is a way better school than Birbeck, how dare you call them a copy cat. Why the heck would you come to Korea to work for a start-up company? I doubt that the Ministry of Information and Technology would invite a person with no experience that doesn't even speak the language to work, especially in a start-up company. Smells a little funny to me.  |
Says the guy who bought his degree on Koh Sahn Rd. |
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