Korean Job Discussion Forums

I_Am_Wrong · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: whatever

laigoguk...I, in no way, meant to imply that you or many other teachers don't work hard. I based my comments on my personal experience and the experience of others I know However, I did say "the average elementary school" and yours is clearly not the average. However, I'm now confused about everything I've said in this topic...so whatever....

In reality, there aren't that many foreign teachers in public school and it wouldn't be that difficult to have more personalized contracts. I don't like that fact that I have the same contract as a walking tape recorder and neither should you.

laogaiguk · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea

TheUrbanMyth · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired

mack the knife · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: standing right behind you...

antoniothegreat · Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Location: Yangpyeong

i think this thread shows the problems of salary for foreigners in Korea. they have a set formula and they are fixed to that formula for our salary, doesnt matter the individual circumstances. obviously some foreigners go to school five minutes before class and have no prep or extras. all the y do is act as a walking cd that answers questions. others plan lessons, grade tests, journals, have extra classes and EC activities.

so that is the problem. the schools usually dont have the flexibility to change the pay of these different responsibilities. is it really fair to pay the first example more money because that teacher has one more year of experience? no. the schools should be given authority over programs (like EPIK) to change salaries based on their individual school's expectations and needs.

TheUrbanMyth · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired

Yu_Bum_suk · Joined: 25 Dec 2004

rawiri · Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

mack you freak, you come and pisss and moan about perceived injustices that don't match reality.

Get out of the friggin country douchebag.

FYI my last open class in front of all my schools korean teachers was an hour teaching our high level class.

Prep time- 10 minutes

K Teachers evaluation-A+

So phuck off back to wherever you came from dickwad.

Real Reality · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul

Teachers return to militant action
In Korea, teachers are allowed to take accumulated leave during the semester.... The militant union has been allowing anti-American and pro-North Korean ideological material and influences to creep into education, while opposing educational reforms such as the evaluation of teachers. Because of the union's resistance, the teacher evaluation system has been delayed, even though students and parents favor the plan.
By Jin Hyun-joo, The Korea Herald
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2006/09/01/200609010049.asp
Union Blamed for 'Leave' Plan
To boost teachers' quality through competition, the government awarded a 10 percent bonus to teachers' salaries in 1995, theoretically to be assigned according to the productivity of a teacher according to assessment. In practice however, all teachers were given the full bonus....
By Kim Rahn, The Korea Times (August 31, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200608/kt2006083118184253460.htm

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livinginkorea · Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: Korea, South of the border

Of course foreign teachers are evaluated!! When I was talking to the VP about resigning, he showed me my evaluation (all in Korea) with scores and said that if I didn't resign he would change the scores to zero. What a retard. Typical Korean trying to scare a foreigner into staying! You should be grateful that we are giving you a job! I picked that school! This country needs native English teachers, not the other way around! My co teachers also have forms detailing every mistake I made. Sniff around your co-teachers desk if you don't believe me!

The pay doesn't matter too much to me. I was making 2.5 a month at my school (when we didn't have vacation) but the one thing that I hate and they have to change it if people are going to stay in public schools - the vacation. Most of us are stuck doing camps while the Korean teachers have longer holidays. Some of them are doing courses or exams but that is to get a promotion or a pay rise for themselves while all the teachers have to come into the school for about 3 or 4 days (that's what it was in my school) where they drank coffee and looked at menus deciding what they would have for lunch.

On another note does anybody watch how long the Korean teachers actually teach for? I have been told by my co teachers that Korean homeroom teachers usually teach for abour 15~20 minutes and then spend the rest of the time "doing their other work" while giving work for their students to do. If I did this then I would be given out to by the headmaster.

Also how many classes do they actually teach? They don't teach English (twice a week for 5/6 grade), P.E. (2 or 3 times a week depending on the grade), computers (twice a week), social studies (twice a week), science (twice a week) and I'm sure that I am forgetting something. This is in my school so it might vary for other schools. During these classes some teachers prepare or do some paperwork while others chat to their friends.

If I had longer holidays I would have stayed in my school but I feel that that will not happen for a long time. Some people have great holidays (small minority) and good luck to them. I on the other hand am jealous that I had to come to work in the middle of winter and summer!!!

One thing is for sure, I am glad that I am out of the GEPIK.