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What is the most practical second language?
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What is the most practical second language?
French
5%
 5%  [ 4 ]
English
15%
 15%  [ 12 ]
Arabic
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Mandarin
11%
 11%  [ 9 ]
Hindi
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Spanish
36%
 36%  [ 29 ]
Japanese
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
Portugese
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Korean
12%
 12%  [ 10 ]
other
12%
 12%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 79

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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maori if I was still in New Zealand but since I want to go live in western europe and canada for a while it will be french.

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mokpochica



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said other because I think it depends on where you live.

I'm biased toward Spanish because that's my other job (teaching Spanish). It is a very useful language to have in the States.

Once upon a time I really wanted to learn Mandarin. In fact, instead of coming to Korea I almost did the intensive Mandarin course (FALCON at Cornell), but ended up here instead. Now I just want to concentrate on learning more Korean and work on picking up a 2nd Romance Language someday (so much easier to learn!).

I don't really think that Mandarin will become as important or useful a language as English. I say this because it is a tonal language and there are very few languages that are, which makes it even harder for most language learners to pick up than English. Also, many Chinese people already speak English pretty well and use it to communicate with international visitors.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
Buncheon Bum wrote:

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As for Spanish, if you live in the americas, obviously it is the most important 2nd language to learn.


Um, obviously not.

Unless you are in Brazil (Portuguese), The Guyanas (English, Dutch, French), Jamaica (some sort of English mahn!), Canada (French).......


oh please, you're being anal, just look at the numbers. First number: # of countries that speak Spanish in the americas. It is higher than any other language 2nd number: population of spanish speakers vs. non-spanish speakers, once again SPANISH.

Dutch, one freaking country, wow how important. French, a couple islands in the Caribean and one country in south america. Yeah, there are french-canadians but how many don't speak english?

As for porteguese, you're right, thanks to Brazil's size, portuguese is useful. But its just one country-albeit the largest south of the USA.

So tell me, what language, overall, would be more important to learn: spanish, french,dutch, or porteguese? Unless you're moving to French Guinea or Brazil, its spanish. Nitpick all you want, but that is the fact of the matter.
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GirlFromMars



Joined: 15 May 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portuguese is damn hard to learn if you don't already know Spanish! It is also around the 5th most spoken language in the world, if you include all the former colonies.
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andrew



Joined: 30 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jg



Joined: 27 May 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Only problem with this poll - since it is in the KOREAN forum, do you mean the most practical second language to a KOREAN first-language speaker or an ENGLISH first-language speaker?


Most people here don't have Korean as their first language - this is an ESL teacher's forum, location specific. However, whatever your first language is, feel free to join in!

Someone said something about Latin? Good luck... that has got to be the least fun language to learn. No one speaks it, and many of the people teaching it make it all hoary and crusty... when I was learning it we spent all our time translating accounts of the Gallic War's, and also I think Cicero? No appeal at all.

Plus you won't find a girlfriend who speaks the language to help you practice, though it seems you can get a boyfriend Laughing
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: What is the most practical second language? Reply with quote

jg wrote:
Mine: Practical - Mandarin. Chinese people keep it real no matter where they go in the world. Thick as thieves, I'm telling you. Plus, 1.25 billion? Okay, all those aren't Mandarin speakers but most are. Mandarin is also my fun language. All that warbling and musical undulating...


The only unfortuante thing about Mandarin is that most of the Chinese who emigrate and live in other countries outside China are generally Cantonese-speakers.. grrr.. and Cantonese is SO much more difficult!!

I choose Spanish because you can definetely use it on three continents.. and I've had quite a few opportunities to use it even here in Asia.. and it goes well with Tagalog and Cebuano languages in the Philippines..

Generally though, I think its quite relevant to the country you are from.. for example, from an American perspective, Spanish is definetely most important as Spanish speakers are I believe now the largest minority.. and portions of California, Florida, Texas, New York, Chicago, etc. have become bilingual States. So of course we heard Spanish all of the time in that country.. plus it goes all the way from throughout the entire hemisphere except for Canada.. but even places like Brazil and such.. Spanish is useful because its so similar.. having lived in Brazil, they can all understand Spanish-speakers, although its not vice-versa, meaning they can't understand Portuguese.

If you are Canada, then maybe French would be more important to them.. and if you live in Australia.. I'm not too sure.. or with Europe.. not sure what would be most important to them.. its all revelant though..
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's Swahili? I vote for Swahili. Where is it?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outside of English (if it is not your second language) I would have to say French.
Then again excellent point was made about location. If you live and work in certain regiosn then other languages become much more handy. In Africa for example, French would be quite handy.
Also, it depends on your concept of "usefull".
For me, Korean (my 3rd language) is quite practical because I can communicate better here. I,also enjoy speaking it when going home when we visit the little korean town in Toronto.
Of course it is not what you would call a "uselfull" language but i do enjoy being able to speak it.
The ame goes for my brother who speaks japanese fluently. He uses it in his daily life in Japan but it is not very "usefull" when he travels to europe or even other asian countries....
Its all very relative.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Portuguese can be that hard, cause my little bro learned it, and even writes and reads email in it, no problem (though considering his English spelling, who knows if it's a problem for the people reading it). He just spent two months, a year later two months, two years later three months in Brazil and he is for all practical purposes fluent. And that's his FIRST foreign language.

As for me, I find that the more foreign languages I learn the easier it is to do it! French wasn't that hard in high school cause it's not soooo different from English, but after learning Korean, Chinese is so easy! So either Chinese is an easy language, or as I prefer to think, it's easier to make my mind catch different sorts of sounds and grammar patterns the more of them I've already been exposed to.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: What is the most practical second language? Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
and if you live in Australia.. I'm not too sure..


Greek, of course.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Where's Swahili? I vote for Swahili. Where is it?

Kenya.. and maybe in Tanzania too? Definetely Kenya though.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
The ame goes for my brother who speaks japanese fluently. He uses it in his daily life in Japan but it is not very "usefull" when he travels to europe or even other asian countries....
Its all very relative.

There are alot of Japanese as well as Koreans traveling around in Asia.. I think its alot of fun to go into a Korean restaurant in the middle of the MeKong River in Vietnam and order Korean food.. or meeting a Korean in a bus of 2-week Euro-tourists and have some know-no-languages North American throw out a little Spanish and Korean here and there..

I found Korean to be the most fun in New York (or just about anywhere), as you don't think Korean is useful outside of Korea, but I find it significantly more fun. Particularly since once you go back home you'll be surprised how many Koreans are all over the place.. all across North America and I'm sure any other English-speaking country as well.. (and even quite a few large numbers in South America as well..

For example, there are around 80,000 Koreans in Brazil.. whereas in Canada there are only 60,000.. Argentina has 30,000.. then there is Los Angeles itself.. 700,000 Koreans there.. i think there around 85,000 in New York City area.. even on my last trip to the USA I went through the State of Washington and even in tiny little towns I saw Koreans owning gas stations.. I saw there in 3 separate Washington state towns.. and I only got gas 3 times in Washington state.. pretty fun to know a little Korean when that stuff happens..
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for Chinese because:

There are over one BILLION Chinese speakers on Earth.

'Nough said.
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GirlFromMars



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Corea do Sul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but they're all in one place
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