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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Teams could be supported....but is that the best location for a new or moved team?
How about Winipeg? A team there would be cool, the city wants one.
As for the Leafs....they were annoying because they bragged (the fans) about being the best team in Canada while having won their last cup when Lester B. Pearson was in power.....that was the schmuck factor.
Now, the attitude has changed a bit (thank you new NHL and salary cap)!
A Hamilton team....well that would be possible but why not just stay in Pittsburg....get the arena deal done. I would hate to see hockey fans in Pitt lose out.
Also, Kansas City has a much stronger bid for a team than Waterloo....they have a brand spanking new 21000 seat arena under construction and would be an instant rival to the Blues.... |
I'd love to see Winnipeg get a team back, but if I was running the NHL I don't know if I'd be too keen. As far as I know, it's not a place with much of an upside/rosy future to it. I guess Hamilton's pretty much the same, though.
Quebec! That would be awesome. I used to love watching the Habs and Nordiques battle it out. Best looking unis too! |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Quebec would be hockey mad....however they have a small out of date arena and no support to build a new one.... |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Location: asdfghjk
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: |
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leaf losers:
1. mats sundin: the biggest loafer in the nhl, why he is a captain, i'll never know... has the guy ever thrown a body check?
2. eric lindros: the whiniest guy in sports and the 2nd biggest guy in the league who can't take a hit (see #1)
3. pat quinn: the king of excuses
4. ed belfour: saved the leafs in the past, but has no confidence in the team (who can blame him?)
5. brian mccabe: the most overrated defenseman in the nhl
6. tomas kaberle: a defenceman who can't play d! only in leaf land
7. wade belak: hahahaha! |
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tomwaits

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Location: PC Bong
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I was out of Internet time yesterday and should have added a couple of things...First is that this guy would only move if no sweet arena deal comes along.
Guy who bought Pens (RIM) is a sort of eccentric billionaire---while Waterloo is wild speculation at the moment it COULD happen and nobody would be able to stop him,,The team could draw from the London corridor that runs down to Michigan and even Hamilton. Thing is TV rights would be tiny. But it is out of the Leafs territory.
Other thing is he could "do an Al Davis" which would create misery for everyone----hence the theory MLSE might agree to something...
Anyway I bet the ACC could be filled for what would be 82 home games.
The Leafs rule in terms of TV and that won't change...
I think teams in say Mississauga and downtown would draw well---hey Chicago (who are off to a ggood start) drew 8000 recently. 2 teams in TO does make sense.
Anywat beer and wild hockey talk are national pastimes so there you go. |
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SarcasmKills

Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ernie wrote: |
leaf losers:
1. mats sundin: the biggest loafer in the nhl, why he is a captain, i'll never know... has the guy ever thrown a body check?
2. eric lindros: the whiniest guy in sports and the 2nd biggest guy in the league who can't take a hit (see #1)
3. pat quinn: the king of excuses
4. ed belfour: saved the leafs in the past, but has no confidence in the team (who can blame him?)
5. brian mccabe: the most overrated defenseman in the nhl
6. tomas kaberle: a defenceman who can't play d! only in leaf land
7. wade belak: hahahaha! |
You do realize that a few of these guys are no longer Leafs right?
Anyways.. there are better places to move teams right now than Toronto, and I don't believe that Winnipeg or Quebec could properly support a team anymore...
Just bring the Whalers back already...
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bombenhagen
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Location: NL
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Nick Kypreos just reported that Balsillie announced yesterday that he was not going to put one cent into a new arena for the team and that he when/if the team moved it would be to Warterloo. At least he is being up front about things unlike what Jeffrey Lorea did to my poor Expos. If Waterloo actually gets the team, it will do very well. There are what, 2.5 million people in the area? Most of whom can't get a Leafs ticket to save their soul and many who can't be bothered to drive to Buffalo. Its a good fit. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| ernie wrote: |
leaf losers:
1. mats sundin: the biggest loafer in the nhl, why he is a captain, i'll never know... has the guy ever thrown a body check?
2. eric lindros: the whiniest guy in sports and the 2nd biggest guy in the league who can't take a hit (see #1)
3. pat quinn: the king of excuses
4. ed belfour: saved the leafs in the past, but has no confidence in the team (who can blame him?)
5. brian mccabe: the most overrated defenseman in the nhl
6. tomas kaberle: a defenceman who can't play d! only in leaf land
7. wade belak: hahahaha! |
You sure you don't want to add Mike Bullard, Kris Kotsopoulos, or Johhny McIntyre to that list?
Geez boy, you been stuck on an island that last 6 months?
Sundin throws plenty of hits. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Professional sports: soap opera for men. |
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atlhockey

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Jeonju City
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| You seem to be confusing professional sports with professional wrestling. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Waterloo has 2.5 million people? I've been gone a long, long time...
I think it would be a good idea to start filling some of the larger markets with more teams. If Edmonton can sell out every night with 800,000, then surely NYC/T.O. etc can sell out 2 or 3 teams...
It would help even out the NHL. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Waterloo, doesn't have 2.5 million. It has 100,000. But, combined with Kitchener, Guelph, Cambridge and London, they are about 900,000-1,000,000. Take in the fact that is in general a heavily populated part of Ontario, there are a lot of people in the area.
Last thing the NHL needs is more teams. They have enough teams, maybe too many teams. They don't need to dilute the talent pool even more. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
Waterloo, doesn't have 2.5 million. It has 100,000. But, combined with Kitchener, Guelph, Cambridge and London, they are about 900,000-1,000,000. Take in the fact that is in general a heavily populated part of Ontario, there are a lot of people in the area.
Last thing the NHL needs is more teams. They have enough teams, maybe too many teams. They don't need to dilute the talent pool even more. |
Yeah, you might be right. It does seem diluted.
I haven't been to the GTA in about a decade. Is it just 'sprawl' or are there downtown cores (other than the Toronto core) to these cities? |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
Waterloo, doesn't have 2.5 million. It has 100,000. But, combined with Kitchener, Guelph, Cambridge and London, they are about 900,000-1,000,000. Take in the fact that is in general a heavily populated part of Ontario, there are a lot of people in the area.
Last thing the NHL needs is more teams. They have enough teams, maybe too many teams. They don't need to dilute the talent pool even more. |
Yeah, you might be right. It does seem diluted.
I haven't been to the GTA in about a decade. Is it just 'sprawl' or are there downtown cores (other than the Toronto core) to these cities? |
There have there own sort of downtowns, but it is mostly just sprawl. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:40 am Post subject: |
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The biggest issue for Pittsburgh is getting a new arena. The governor has been dragging his feet for a number of reasons, but many speculate it's b/c he's more interested in developing Philly than in worrying about new sports venues for Pgh (which got two new stadiums earlier in the decade). The governor of PA is a former mayor of Phildadelphia.
Pittsburgh getting a new arena hinges on getting a slots license, that is permission for a company to open a slots casino in Pittsburgh. There are a number of groups vying for it, including one that would put it in a popular night spot. However, this group doesn't have interest in building a new arena and in developing the area around the site of the new arena. THere's a lot of issues with the slots license. Many people are upset about gambling (Pgh is a conservative town). Also, there were scandals in the summer about politicians already getting kickbacks (they were setting up paperwork in their childrens' names, since it's illegal for the politicians themselves to have a stake in it.)
Pittsburgh wants hockey. Hockey was huge in the 1990s, and after winning two cups Pittsburgh had one of the best offenses in the league. We never could get around to signing a big time defenseman, or getting a decent goalie to replace Barrasso, or drafting players with any sort of skill. But alot of the problems the Penguins had go back to an unequal financial situation in the league. I mean, Pittsburgh traded away Jagr, Kovalev, Straka, Kasparitus, et al, for next to nothing, and they let Robert Lang walk away for free. Now Pittsburgh has Malkin, Crosby, and MA Fleury, and about a half dozen other good prospects/players nobody's heard of. They're shaping up to be a good time for a long time, and with the salary cap they can at least be a little competitive when it comes to signing players (they signed Gonchar, Leclair, Recchi, and Pallfy last year, although they all sucked).
It's not a foregone conclusion that the Penguins will move. It is sad, though, to see the interested parties in Pittsburgh don't share the same enthusiasm for the team as businessmen from Ontario. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
Waterloo, doesn't have 2.5 million. It has 100,000. But, combined with Kitchener, Guelph, Cambridge and London, they are about 900,000-1,000,000. Take in the fact that is in general a heavily populated part of Ontario, there are a lot of people in the area.
Last thing the NHL needs is more teams. They have enough teams, maybe too many teams. They don't need to dilute the talent pool even more. |
It wouldn't be a new team, it would just be a move. So no worry about further dilution.
How about a "York Region" hockey team? That area is frickin' huge now! Billboards were saying over 2mill when I was home in the summer. |
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