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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laogaiguk: you are another one afflicted with a case of last-word-itis.

I find it wholly revealing that you would go through all of this, including the insults ("you are just way too sensitive," "hypocrite," etc. -- and disclaim and backpeddle all you want, you are transparent here: these are antagonistic "fighting" words. You could have made your point another way, with words like "inconsistent" or "contradictory," for example, yet you chose to use these offensive words -- as did I, without a doubt. Unlike you, however, I have little or no respect for anything that you post, as it has not contributed anything that I have never heard or thought of before, and it is usually plagued by distracting words like "anyways," and not to mention usually entirely lacking in concepts and ideas...) and then you finally come around to asking me to clarify what I meant when I objected to both Mindmetoo and the OP in my first post on this thread.

If you had only looked before leaping, and been less troubled by your crusade to "expose" my so-called hypocrisy here, you might have asked me this to begin with, saving us both not a little grief. As it is, I remain unsurprised by this development (and your tacit admission).

My answer is this: OP found a story that apparently reduces the Middle Eastern enemy to barbarians (and this subtheme is the standard "barbarians are in our midst" variety). Mindmetoo, unable to let this go, apparently, responded by reducing Americans to the same sad state, probably hoping to "counter" one piece of propagandistic jingoism with another shining exemplar of this board's simplistic style of "thought" and "debate..."

Both speak in terms of utter generality; both are playing the Foucauldian "power by definition" game, whether they admit to it or realize it or not. Both maneuver for moral superiority (which includes maneuvering to deny it to one party or another as well as claiming it for him or herself).

And by the way, the knee-jerk association between the Parisan story and the older American one makes about as much sense (and is just as transparent) as the Iranian govt's knee-jerk response to the Dutch cartoons insulting the Prophet and Allah: ridiculing Israel and questioning the Holocaust.

In fact, many play this power game here. I am talking about others who constantly scan the net for info that will "substantiate" their propaganda case. And I merely point out that it is getting old. Compare their stories, for example, with those that Manner of Speaking posts, which are clearly meant to generate actual discussion on news-worthy events and reporting in good faith...


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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
Or like abortion doctors in the USA.



Ah yes, the old "abortion doctor" chestnut.

The killing and attcking of a few abortion doctors (mostly by one man)- clearly means all christians everywhere and christianity over centuries can be written off.

Losing a debate? just pull the magic "abortion doctor" out your pocket.


An out-culture muslim attacks a doctor, that's the whole faith. An in-culture wing nut attacks a doctor for religious reasons, that's just a nut who doesn't understand his faith.

That's the way I see it.
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