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Ireland named best place to live
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

insamjunkie wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
Where the heck are you from? California? Average home prices in most of the US, even major cities, is well under $500,000.


I suppose it depends on what you consider major cities, but remember that we are using Dublin as the comparison. Given that Dublin is the Irish equivalent of Seoul, I don't think comparisons to Omaha are all that relevant.


What's your definition of a major city? Does Chicago qualify?
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insamjunkie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

insamjunkie wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
What's your definition of a major city? Does Chicago qualify?


If it proves your point and that makes you fel good, go to town with all the real estate pricing sites you care to link to. But no, if we really look at the comparison city, it doesn't qualify.


Uh, okay.

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Back in the States, any house within driving distance of a major city for less than half a million would either be an unbelievable bargain or a death wish (i.e. a scary neighborhood).


So by "a major city" you meant NYC only. Even though Dublin is just over 1,000,000 in population, and all of Ireland is under 4,000,000.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada should be #1 except it's cold there.

I think the bad stuff written in earlier replies is just to discourage immigrants. Maybe they should change the name to Iceland.

cbc
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ella



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ll of Ireland is under 4,000,000.

That's one of the things I love about it: all that beautiful, glorious, emerald space.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insamjunkie wrote:
corroonb wrote:
Ireland is incredibly expensive. Any house within a 50 mile radius of Dublin costs a minimum of 350,000 Euro ($450,000), even if its a cowshed.Anywhere inside Dublin that isn't a tiny appartment costs close to a million.


Back in the States, any house within driving distance of a major city for less than half a million would either be an unbelievable bargain or a death wish (i.e. a scary neighborhood).


That just isn't true.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

corroonb wrote:
I live in Ireland right now and if its the best place in the world, then I'm emmigrating to Mars.



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

It sounds like you're describing Canada, which was also at one time the "best place to live". Brace yourself for a quick ride down the hill. If the Irish government is anything like the Canadian, it's first reaction to the news is to brainwash kids in schools about how great of a country Ireland is, but it won't do more than the bare minimum to ensure that the standards of living are maintained. Once they've been in parliament long enough to secure a large pension for themselves, they'll let it all slide down the hill.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
insamjunkie wrote:
corroonb wrote:
Ireland is incredibly expensive. Any house within a 50 mile radius of Dublin costs a minimum of 350,000 Euro ($450,000), even if its a cowshed.Anywhere inside Dublin that isn't a tiny appartment costs close to a million.


Back in the States, any house within driving distance of a major city for less than half a million would either be an unbelievable bargain or a death wish (i.e. a scary neighborhood).


That just isn't true.


We've already discussed this (see above). By "a major city" insamjunkie means New York City.
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The Man known as The Man



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irish drunkards!!!
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insamjunkie



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insamjunkie wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:

We've already discussed this (see above). By "a major city" insamjunkie means New York City.


I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were still obsessing over this.


Don't worry, I'm not. I just like pointing out when people are wrong.

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Here are some stats on 300 different locations in the U.S.:

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/hpci_data/index.html

Check out the prices in places like NY (and surrounding areas in NJ, CT), CA, Boston, D.C. (and surrounding areas in VA, MD), Chicago, Miami, hell even a sh*t hole like downtown Philladelphia.


Yes, I did. Thank you for doing the research and proving my point.

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IL Schaumburg $339,875.00
IL Carol Stream $340,500.00
IL Naperville $346,250.00


There's three cities within driving distance of Chicago that have average home prices under $500,000. Three fairly nice and well off cities.

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Now think about about what "average sales price" means.


Think about what "a 2,200-square-foot house with 4 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bathrooms, a family room and a two-car garage" means.

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Now think about what percentage of the U.S. population is covered by the above cities.

Now admit you were wrong and apologize.


Wrong about what? Unless you define "a major city" as New York City (and even then you're probably wrong) you've just proven yourself wrong.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insamjunkie wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
BJWD wrote:
insamjunkie wrote:
corroonb wrote:
Ireland is incredibly expensive. Any house within a 50 mile radius of Dublin costs a minimum of 350,000 Euro ($450,000), even if its a cowshed.Anywhere inside Dublin that isn't a tiny appartment costs close to a million.


Back in the States, any house within driving distance of a major city for less than half a million would either be an unbelievable bargain or a death wish (i.e. a scary neighborhood).


That just isn't true.


We've already discussed this (see above). By "a major city" insamjunkie means New York City.


I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were still obsessing over this.

Here are some stats on 300 different locations in the U.S.:

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/hpci_data/index.html

Check out the prices in places like NY (and surrounding areas in NJ, CT), CA, Boston, D.C. (and surrounding areas in VA, MD), Chicago, Miami, hell even a sh*t hole like downtown Philladelphia.

Now think about about what "average sales price" means.

Now think about what percentage of the U.S. population is covered by the above cities.

Now admit you were wrong and apologize.


You don't know what you are talking about. Let it die.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Adventurer wrote:
Ireland is the best place to live in the world, according to a "quality of life" assessment by Economist magazine...


Someone better tell Pyongshin Sanja...


Oh believe me, I know all about Ireland these days.
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Man known as The Man wrote:
Irish drunkards!!!


Tautologist!!!
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dbee



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

* Well in terms of the price property debate, my parents house is about 6 miles from the city centre of Cork city (pop. <400,000). It's a normal suburban house, nothing special - in a park with lots of other nothing special suburban houses. It was valued a couple of years ago at over 1million euros. There's very few places in the world where you'll find house prices like that ...

* Car insurance for an 18 year old male ... you're talking maybe > 1000 euros for a year (for a crappy car). I've known people who've had to pay more for car insurance annually, than their car is actually worth in total.

* Price of a pint downtown, maybe 4-5 euros (although you can get it cheaper). Cigarettes are REALLY expensive. I don't smoke, so I can't say for certain, but maybe 5euros for a 20 pack sounds about right ?

... last time I went to Tokyo, I thought the place was actually quite reasonably priced in comparison. Put it that way ... Wink

Having said that though, if you're not driving or planning on buying a house. or planning on smoking yourself to death. Ireland can be a great place to visit or even live. If you're looking for an authentic Irish experience then just head out west, or to the Kerry/Dingle penninsula.

You can still do Ireland on the cheap though if you know what you're doing and you're used to travelling a bit. Ryanair will get you there for half-nothing from anywhere in Europe. It is a fantastic place to visit IMO. And the weather usually keeps the riff-raff tourists away ...
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