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Go to Yongsan with me and I will make it worth it
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm up for it. An evening get-together at Gangnam's Platinum microbrewery restaurant would defintely make me convinced.
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cyrax



Joined: 31 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: more info Reply with quote

MASH4077 wrote:
mateomiguel wrote:
this may be the only time in the history of the world that the phrase "I will make it worth your while" is not used by a prostitute.


Interesting that you know so much about what prostitutes say. I did not know prostitutes use that expression, but I am not familiar with their jargon.

Making it worth your while is that I will buy you beer afterwards. LOL

Actually, now I am seriously considering buying an Apple mini "The Cube". You can get it with 60-160 gig, 1.83 Ghz Intel Core duo, 512 MB of memoryCombo CD-RW/DVD-RW

4 USB Ports

Sounds quite attractive for the price and portability

Also less vulnerability to virus and exploits


I must warn you about the hardware lock-in you will experience with Apple hardware. Personally I like to mess around with my computer and add whatever devices I like. Apple has quite expensive hardware when compared to other products.
The other thing you need to consider is most of the korean websites demand IE be your browser and Macs do not have the best IE support. Banks especially will not allow you to login with any other browser.
Then again its your money and your opinion that matters.
Please do not think that I am anti-Apple because I appreciate their designs - minimalistic.
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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Less vulerability because there are less virus aimed at sabotaging Macs and that less people (hackers, etc.) are interested in Macs. That's all.

... No. Less viruses and malware because it's built on a UNIX kernel which has been tried and tested, and provides a much safer architecture on which to run a computer ...

* programs run as non-root user
* no IE
* daemon programs are open-source and thoroughly audited at this stage
* proper file permissions and modes

.. basically a kernel that was designed from DAY1 with security in mind. That's why it's safer ( although Apple deserve no credit for it whatsoever ).
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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops

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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I smell a tech gathering brewing? I'd be into that...
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbee wrote:

... No. Less viruses and malware because it's built on a UNIX kernel which has been tried and tested, and provides a much safer architecture on which to run a computer ...


Actually It is unix that attracts more viruses than any other OSes developed.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
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Less vulerability because there are less virus aimed at sabotaging Macs and that less people (hackers, etc.) are interested in Macs. That's all.

... No. Less viruses and malware because it's built on a UNIX kernel which has been tried and tested, and provides a much safer architecture on which to run a computer ...

* programs run as non-root user
* no IE
* daemon programs are open-source and thoroughly audited at this stage
* proper file permissions and modes

.. basically a kernel that was designed from DAY1 with security in mind. That's why it's safer ( although Apple deserve no credit for it whatsoever ). It's got very little to do with how many people use it. More to do with the fact that writing a virus or worm for a UNIX system is HARD, whereas writing one for windows is EASY...


Hi Dbee,

I do not know much about MACS so I cannot argue your point. However, can you not agree that hackers and malicious users focus more on Windows OS rather than MAC OS thus there will be more viruses and worms created for the PC?

IMO, the two are directly correlated.

Ralph
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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

I do not know much about MACS so I cannot argue your point. However, can you not agree that hackers and malicious users focus more on Windows OS rather than MAC OS thus there will be more viruses and worms created for the PC?

IMO, the two are directly correlated.

... no I don't agree with that at all. IMO it's faulty logic.

Take apache and IIS for example. Apache has up to 70% market share, it's free and open source. IIS has more like 20% market share, it's a microsoft closed source product.

By your logic there should be tons of vulnerabilities being discovered and taken advantage of in apache. Whereas in actual fact, it's the opposite. IIS has been plagued with vulnerabilities from day 1, whereas apache has been as safe as houses for God knows how long...
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Actually It is unix that attracts more viruses than any other OSes developed.

what ?
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="dbee"]
Quote:

I do not know much about MACS so I cannot argue your point. However, can you not agree that hackers and malicious users focus more on Windows OS rather than MAC OS thus there will be more viruses and worms created for the PC?

IMO, the two are directly correlated.

... no I don't agree with that at all. IMO it's faulty logic.

Take apache and IIS for example. Apache has up to 70% market share, it's free and open source. IIS has more like 20% market share, it's a microsoft closed source product.

By your logic there should be tons of vulnerabilities being discovered and taken advantage of in apache. Whereas in actual fact, it's the opposite. IIS has been plagued with vulnerabilities from day 1, whereas apache has been as safe as houses for God knows how long...
[quote]

Again a couple more misconceptions to spread around. Sure Apache is more popular but not for the reasons said.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
Quote:

I do not know much about MACS so I cannot argue your point. However, can you not agree that hackers and malicious users focus more on Windows OS rather than MAC OS thus there will be more viruses and worms created for the PC?

IMO, the two are directly correlated.

... no I don't agree with that at all. IMO it's faulty logic.

Take apache and IIS for example. Apache has up to 70% market share, it's free and open source. IIS has more like 20% market share, it's a microsoft closed source product.

By your logic there should be tons of vulnerabilities being discovered and taken advantage of in apache. Whereas in actual fact, it's the opposite. IIS has been plagued with vulnerabilities from day 1, whereas apache has been as safe as houses for God knows how long...
Quote:

Actually It is unix that attracts more viruses than any other OSes developed.

what ?


Thanks for the info. I do not know of Apache or IIS, though, I will read up on it a bit more. Thanks.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I could go 'cause then everyone would now what a fakir I am.
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dbee



Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think I could go 'cause then everyone would now what a fakir I am.

... what's a fakir ?
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
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I don't think I could go 'cause then everyone would now what a fakir I am.

... what's a fakir ?


lol. Laughing I was wondering the same thing. Does he mean F.U.C.K.E.R.?
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbee wrote:
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I don't think I could go 'cause then everyone would now what a fakir I am.

... what's a fakir ?

just purposely mispelling faker - even though fakir has a completely unrelated meaning.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:00 pm    Post subject: Bought the Mini Reply with quote

Great interface! 128 Encryption for al of harddisk. Tons of great apps. And my 40 gig Ipod quit working on the PC, byt works great on the MAC-was able to download all the songs from the Ipod onto the Mac. Able to read and edit all Microsoft documents. Has DVD R/W. 80 gigs and 1.83 Mghz The Mac with all prepheals costs less than my 40 gig Toshiba that I had bought 4 years ago, for less.

Oh, bye the way, the Aple Store in COEX is temporarily closed for remodeling, so I bought it in the Music store.

Sorry guys "I've gone Mac Smile. I guess time will tell if it was a wise purchase.
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