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Message of H.E. Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; Iran's President
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dissidents are not allowed to speak, where only those who the Ayatolah approve of can run for office, where freedom is just a dream...

Is he seriously trying to paint Iran as a freedom loving nation?



I think most people are by now aware that Iran is a theocracy. If they aren't it isn't because anyone has been keeping it a secret for the last 25 years. The people likely to read the letter are probably aware of our own experiences with theocracy in our past, where people were tortured and burned to death for their own good. People know how this system works.

Not a few people believe the guy is bonkers. It was interesting that he didn't once mention Iran's nuclear program which is so controversial lately. He didn't say anything about how he is probably neck-deep in the Iraqi civil war/insurgency/whatever it is properly called this week.

What I think he was doing was trying to present Iran as 'human', not the media caricature that we normally get. There has been talk of late that we (the US) needs to talk to Iran and Syria. I think this was his way of telling the American public to support this idea--that he is approachable. I have no way of knowing that's what he was up to, but that's my assessment.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And for those of us who are not so easily swayed by the rhetorical eloquence of the President of the Shariah state.




Welcome back, bigverne. Where have you been? Suspended for misbehavior?

It's nice to know the ever-vigilant bigverne is out there watching out to save the West from itself.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me clarify my position on Iran, now that, unfortunately, words and concepts like "freedom" and "the Shariah state" are begining to be thrown around on this thread.

I think there is room in the world for a theocratic Iran and a democratic United States to coexist and perhaps even cooperate (and who says you have to like each other to do this?). I do not buy into Huntington's thesis. I also think that neither Iran nor the United States can or should claim virtue or moral superiority or whatever else idealists or their critics on either side might allege. This means that I do not believe that anyone, anywhere in the world, can claim the moral high ground -- especially not Tehran, not Caracas, and not Hezbollah or the Palestinians, either, in spite of all of their absurd claims to the contrary.

I simply think that, with respect to OP, Tehran is playing crude PR games and misrepresenting itself as a wronged Mother Teresa -- and this is laughable. And in case people of the Middle East have not figured this out by now, for various reasons, most of them I agree with, the United States is not going to abandon Israel to those who would not hesitate to annihilate it and drive its people into the sea.

All of this being said, if Tehran wants to negotiate with the United States of America, by all means, please go through official channels or backchannels, just like everybody else in the world. Playing drama games with "the American people" will, ultimately, accomplish little, and, as I said above, it might even backfire.

(By the way, this issue has received much more attn on this board that it has thus far in the United States.)
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
"The Iranian leader, who wrote an 18-page letter to President Bush in May that Bush never responded to, said he was now writing to the American people in friendship because Iran and the United States shared a responsibility �to promote and protect freedom and human dignity and integrity.�"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15947213/?GT1=8717

It looks like Bush had his to respond chance last May.

It looks like Iraq will be selecting an Independent course.

It looks like occupation is bad policy.

cbc


It looks like the gloves are likely to come off and the sooner the better! Aremadinnerjacket doesn't even want to *beep* w/ my man "W".... Very Happy
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