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Gopher
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| You waited ten months to post an entire aritlce from 1977...? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| i remember before junior died he had made some mention of running for president. i remember thinking "who could beat him?". not long after he died. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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I check Dave's while I wake up in the morning and I like waking up to nonsense like this. I guess wing-nuts give me a point of reference: I'm still sane--Alzheimer's hasn't kicked in over-night  |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I'm still sane--Alzheimer's hasn't kicked in over-night |
Q: Was this poster recently a high school teacher or a high school student? Grow up Yata. You are into yourself in a big waY and this aint your board. Buy one. Administer one. But until you do act like a grown up on one. Hint: If you don't like a post, pass by it. I do it all the time. That is what an adult would do. Not the childish behavior you exhibit. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Hes famous, he dies young, it's always a little too convenient for someone. Lets not get carried away... |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| but...he was speaking of running for president (in 2000?). do you think that gore or bush 2 could have beat him? |
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Funkdafied
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Location: In Da House
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh please, the Kennedies have no feelings. |
Yes they did, and do, and that is completely obvious except to a lump of festering human detritus like yourself. But Gopher was right when he labelled you anti-establishment, and that is a great despription. It is important to remember that anti-establishment nuts are not just on the left. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
| but...he was speaking of running for president (in 2000?). do you think that gore or bush 2 could have beat him? |
I'm not sure. Doesn't mean his death was murder though. Regular people die in accidents all the time. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Regular people die in accidents all the time.
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There are no accidents in a conspiracist's world. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| We need a poll on the assassination of John Candy. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Regular people die in accidents all the time.
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There are no accidents in a conspiracist's world. |
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I love self appointed experts.
You speak with such resounding authority and confidence! But again you are making pretty much useless generalisations.
Every conspiracy theory is different, as is every -theorist. The funny thing is you seem to demonstrate all the qualities of the very people you attack
1. You adopt an extremely simplified view of the world, and then think you know all about it!
2. It's all or nothing for you: All conspiracy theories are false. Anyone who strays from the official line is a conspiracy theorist.
3. You certainly don't consider a conspiracy theory as a means to get at the truth of a situation! They are all false! They have been deliberately designed to attack democracy!
4. You have an inadequate capacity to evaluate facts. First you ask "Is this labelled a conspiracy theory? If so, all the facts they claim are false, and have been made up to confuse ordinary people"
5. It is noteworthy that you never seem to have any doubts about whether a conspiracy theory has any truth to it, or for that matter, about the truth of your opinions. You have absolutely no capacity for self evaluation!
I hope you can see that you make no contribution to the truth. You just post your fanatic and ill thought out opinions. You're as bad as the worst kind of conspiracy theorist.
There are plenty of people on both sides of the debate making contributions to the truth. You are just not one of them. |
Evidence Of A Cover up
John and Carolyn Kennedy
JFK Jr. - Why the official story is in doubt.
Let's get something clear. The purpose of this article is not to suggest an alternative explanation for the crash of JFK Jr's plane. The purpose of this article is to suggest that it is reasonable and prudent to examine all possibilities, not settle on the first explanation forced upon the public to the exclusion of all else.
Part 1. An Age Of Lies
Once you accept that the Warren Report lied to the public, you'll realize you knew it all along. After all, the last official government verdict, rendered by the House Select Committee on Assassinations, was that there had indeed been a conspiracy, and John Connelly went to his grave insisting he was not hit by the same gunshot that had hit John F. Kennedy. The Zapruder film bears him out, showing Connelly, after John Kennedy has clutched his throat, still holding his Stetson hat in the hand which was just moments later, struck by a bullet. A different bullet.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/jj.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIWD92HTy6Q |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Let's get something clear. The purpose of this article is not to suggest an alternative explanation for the crash of JFK Jr's plane. The purpose of this article is to suggest that it is reasonable and prudent to examine all possibilities, not settle on the first explanation forced upon the public to the exclusion of all else |
Seems reasonable. Now do this for every kid killed in car accident this weekend. Because you know, the obvious answer(he was drunk/driving too fast) is never good enough. Lets dig deeper, delude ourselves a little. People die in accidents, without meaning every day. You yourself may die in one, with no grand plot, no grand meaning behind it. That is just life.
But please, give me the other possibilities, give this guys death a little meaning, I'm sure the CIA must have been involved.. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| "in politics, noting happens by accident." who said it? who was the conspiracy nut? a clue: his initials were F.D.R. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Oh, I'd say jinju and regicide amply demonstrate that those with a loose grip on reality do not only emanate from the Far Left.
Hey, regicide, ever heard of the phrase "unnatural obsession?"
Vanna White reminds you to: "Buy a vowel and get a clue." And please take jinjuvitis shopping with you. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
| "in politics, noting happens by accident." who said it? who was the conspiracy nut? a clue: his initials were F.D.R. |
Indeed. And then there are fools like McGarrett and Yataboy, who believe everything put before them. They are the smart, level headed people who keep their watchful eye on society. We couldn't exist without them.
In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
In Politics,
Nothing Happens By Accident
14 July, 2006
Around the time an Israeli soldier was allegedly kidnapped...
Palestinian terrorists entered Israel from Gaza via a tunnel under the security fence and attacked IDF positions in the area. Two soldiers were killed, one was kidnapped, and several others were wounded. [infoisrael.net 06/25/06]
...the news was full of "al Qaeda" and bin Laden:
Suddenly, the faces and voices of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahri are everywhere, in a stream of video and audio messages broadcast to the world. In the past month alone, five new tapes from the two have reached an international audience. Excerpts of Zawahri's latest message were broadcast on Al Jazeera television on Thursday, a day before the first anniversary of the London bombings. [Reuters 07/07/06]
The whole of the world's media is now focused on Israel's actions...
Israel struck Beirut airport and military airbases and blockaded Lebanese ports on Thursday, intensifying reprisals that have killed 55 civilians in Lebanon since Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers a day earlier. [IOL 07/14/06]
...which were planned well before the alleged kidnap:
The detention of Hamas parliamentarians in the early hours of Thursday morning had been planned several weeks ago and received approval from Mazuz on Wednesday. The same day, Shin Bet Director Yuval Diskin presented Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with the list of Hamas officials slated for detention. [Haaretz 06/30/06]
There is only one thing that could relegate this story from headline news, and that is a very big bang courtesy of "al Qaeda".
It would also allow Bush to say "I told you so":
"Israel has the right to defend herself," Bush told a news conference after talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. [Washington Post 07/13/06]
It would also dig Blair out of a hole:
TONY BLAIR will fly off on his summer holiday knowing that on his return he will be the first serving British prime minister to be interviewed by police in a corruption investigation. [Times 07/14/06]
It would also give the justification for a strike on Iran.
If "al Qaeda" creates a big bang in the near future just remember who benefits.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
The crash of John F. Kennedy Jr's aircraft and the indications of a cover-up.
Having established that the government and the media have a prior (and quite deplorable) record of deliberate lies to the public, let us look at how the official story of the crash of John F. Kennedy Jr's plane evolved, and why it is suspect.
As first reported by United Press International, John F. Kennedy Jr. on approach to Martha's Vineyard in 8 mile visibility, was in radio contact with the ground, calmly informing them of his intentions to drop off a passenger before proceeding to Hyannis airport. Then, according to ABC News, JFK Jr's plane went into a steep dive, and crashed.
However, even before the wreckage was found, the story being put out in the media began to change. Gone was the previously reported radio conversation a calm JFK Jr. had with ground personnel just before the plane fell out of the sky, replaced by a declaration from the NTSB that JFK Jr. had not used his radio at all as he approached Martha's Vineyard. Gone also was the originally reported 8 mile visibility while the media began to hammer home the claim that Martha's Vineyard had been totally blanketed with a haze so heavy that pilots in the air would have been blind.
No sooner were the various stories put out but they quickly fell apart.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/jj.html |
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