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bucheon bum
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
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| FYI, this is 2007, not 1907. |
Just a brief list (I'm too tired to typ alot) of some US Sponsered/Backed/Supported/Financed/Led/Fomenteted/Accepted (in violation of US government policy) coups/invasions/occupations/etc:
Cuba April 15, 1961
Iran August 19, 1953
Guatamala Summer 1953
South Vietnam 1963 (Diem), 1964 (Minh), 1975 (Thieu)
Chile September 11, 1973
Panama 1968, 1989
Haiti 1915
Dominican Republic 1965
Iraq 2003
You're right though, it's not 1907. |
you said:
Well, if they get out of hand the US can just overthrow the government and appoint a dictator to run things, not that the beacon of freedom would ever do such a thing.
So let's check out your list:
Cuba- well that failed didn't it? Castro is still in power. Not sure how we overthrew the gov't.
Iran- That's outside Latin America. Sorry, I was just refering to that part of the world. I realize that was not clear in my comment. Apologies.
Guatemala- yes, that is true.
South Vietnam- see above.
Chile- This has been well-covered on this board. The US was not as directly involved as your statement above indicates.
Panama- I admit I'm not familiar with 1968. I suppose you do have a point with Noriega.
Haiti- Yeah, so I was 8 years off, a shame.
Dominican Republic- Wasn't that getting rid of a despot? Wasn't the person who replaced him better?
Iraq- same answer as with South Vietnam and Iran.
That being said, you have to admit that it would be utterly bizarre and completely illogical for the US to become involved in Chilean affairs to that degree. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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I was being sarcastic, I don't see the US reviving the Monroe Doctrine anytime soon, if they haven't attacked Chavez, they are sure to leave Chile alone. The scare mongering about Chile and nuclear power is just crazy. Almost every country (including the US and Canada) is trying to get or sell more nuke stations. The smart leftists see it as clean energy and the cynical rightests see it is a moneymaker on a buisness that almost collapsed in the 80's. I support any country that wants to have nuclear power.
BTW, just because the coup or invasion failed in the end doesn't make it right or justified. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| ...they are sure to leave Chile alone. The scare mongering about Chile and nuclear power is just crazy... |
Huh?
There are so many errors and bad assumptions in your post, Octavius. Hardly surprising. You came onto this thread in a sarcastic mood.
There is no scare-mongering about Chile in any way whatsoever. Indeed, should you be interested to know more about Chile's feasibility studies on nuclear power, you would have to look in the Chilean press. This story has gotten zero play in the American press.
I knew it would cause strange side-effects if I were to post such a story here. You and Huffdaddy both. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
I knew it would cause strange side-effects if I were to post such a story here. You and Huffdaddy both. |
Pointing out that numerous other countries have nuclear power is a "strange side-effect"? 
What was that you were saying about bad assumptions? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Pointing out that numerous other countries have nuclear power is a "strange side-effect"? |
First of all, I feel much more comfortable calling you "Huggybear" -- as in Starsky and Hutch -- than anything with "daddy" in it, so please indulge me. Not meant to show disrespect. "Huggybear" is far cooler than P. Diddy even on his best day anyway...
In any case, yes: strange side effects. I post a front-page Chilean news item the day it hits the press here. I show how it contrasts with similar news coming from Iran.
You immediately assume a defensive position and indeed dismiss it even represents "news" while Octavius mocks America and cites Cold War-era coups d'etat. LOL.
Strange side effects, indeed. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
In any case, yes: strange side effects. I post a front-page Chilean news item the day it hits the press here. I show how it contrasts with similar news coming from Iran.
You immediately assume a defensive position and indeed dismiss it even represents "news" while Octavius mocks America and cites Cold War-era coups d'etat. LOL.
Strange side effects, indeed. |
By my count, there are around 30 countries with nuclear power. Is another country considering nuclear power news? I suppose. It flies higher on the radar with Iran in the news. But is it ground breaking, get worked up about it news? Not in my opinion. How about reactors being built by a high schooler or a a college student? Now that's news. How is pointing out that it's ho-hum news being defensive?
As for your "analysis." Again, ho-hum. Nothing to put myself out over. Which is why you only got a wiki link from me.
But I guess it doesn't matter to you. Whether you get the reaction you wanted or not, you still paint everyone with the same brush. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| ...you still paint everyone with the same brush. |
Interesting, huggy.
True or not, it could be worse, I suppose. I could disdainfully dismiss a Third-World newspaper's headline story as "not news" just because it does not fit my more "developed" criteria... |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| ...you still paint everyone with the same brush. |
Interesting, huggy.
True or not, it could be worse, I suppose. I could disdainfully dismiss a Third-World newspaper's headline story as "not news" just because it does not fit my more "developed" criteria... |
Chile's third world? I've been to Argentina and I wouldn't call them third world. I thought Chile was doing better than them.
Frankly, it'd be bigger news to me if Chile couldn't develop the technology for nuclear power.
BTW, it's true. You've got the "with me or against me" syndrome. |
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