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[stevemcgarrett]

Huff-n-PuffDaddy:

[hubba bubba]

I can't wait until these assclowns start to pander to the asian american community.

Everytime I hear Hillary Clinton, I feel deep shame and embarassment.

[thepeel]

dd is blacker than both of them put together.

[huffdaddy]

[stevemcgarrett]

HuffDaddy:

[huffdaddy]

[stevemcgarrett]

Puppetmaster:

Bush speaks Spanish, lives in a state where Spanish is widely spoken, was the beneficiary of tremendous Hispanic support as Governor of Texas. Trying his hand at speaking another LANGUAGE in a genuine manner is not the same as pretending to talk like Jesse Jackson.

I don't care if they did choose Obama by a wide margin. If even one black voted for Keyes, that entitles him to a voice in the chorus in my book. And I'd assert that much even if Keyes were at loggerheads with my political inclinations. You see, I actually believe in diversity of expression, not some P.C. version of it that declares only some are entitled to speak for a given minority group.

If I have to justify my claim that many blacks are offended, it only demonstrates how uninformed you are. If you were really immersed in the black experience, you'd know this was true without the need for proof. Sad, really, since you imagine yourself to be so sensitive to the black cause, whatever that is these days.

I do, however, give Obama credit for at least criticizing the decline of fatherhood in the black community. The disintegration of the black family (71% of children born out of wedlock, for instance) is more a threat to this community's wellbeing than any supposed rollback of civil rights.

[Ya-ta Boy]

Didn't read the thread. The title alone disqualified it for serious consideration.

My problem with all too much of the current political discourse is that it isn't about why a candidate SHOULD be president, but about why the other party's candidates shouldn't. And a year early. It's about character assassination. Sleazy.

[huffdaddy]

[mindmetoo]

[huffdaddy]

[Gopher]

Have not read all posts in this thread. But I would add the following:

Obama represents some African-Americans. Obama is politicking to African-Americans and saying whatever he needs to in order to win as many of their votes as possible. (Obama also represents my politics enough that he has my support for president.)

I have no problem with both of these assertions existing at the same time. Neither undermines the other.

Hillary, however...

She is something else entirely.

[stevemcgarrett]

Huffy Daddy:

If you can't detect the difference in tone of voice when Obama spoke at that southern black Baptist church the other day, then you're tone deaf or just willfully ignorant. It's as plain as day. He AFFECTED what he perceives as the local dialect to ingratiate himself, Mr. Puppet. When Bush used Spanish, he didn't attempt to convey a stereotypic dialect. Wanting his mostly Hispanic audience to know he understands Spanish (and Mexican customs, I might add, as with his brother Jeb, who is married to a Hispanic) was, if you wish to be cynical, an attempt to ingratiate but surely an effort to convey respect. What Obama and Hillary did, unwittingly or not, is essentialize (new term for you) blacks, if not mock them. And by insisting that only a few black conservatives would object to this essentializing makes you a cultural outsider and perhaps a bigot.

By the way, I guess you must be a sock for ta-ta boy and mindmetoo. That's o.k., none of you can sustain an argument but if you put your heads together you just might be able to mount one (or at least one another).

Now run along and go play marbles with the ghost of Tom Sawyer.