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Kiddirts



Joined: 25 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:17 pm    Post subject: here we go Reply with quote

Here's an analogy...what if I knew a girl who was a good masseuse, and almost every week I would try to have her come over for dinner. I would tell her to come over at 6:00, but when she gets here, I tell her the pot roast won't be done for another hour and come sit on the couch and give me a massage. Then after we eat, I clean the dishes and ask for another hour long massage. Tell me who's the freeloader, Gord.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: here we go Reply with quote

Kiddirts wrote:
Here's an analogy...what if I knew a girl who was a good masseuse, and almost every week I would try to have her come over for dinner. I would tell her to come over at 6:00, but when she gets here, I tell her the pot roast won't be done for another hour and come sit on the couch and give me a massage. Then after we eat, I clean the dishes and ask for another hour long massage. Tell me who's the freeloader, Gord.


That's a lovely story, but would only be relevant if you could only communicate with each other by touching.

You're a freeloader. You want to show up, get some food, and have them be happy because you're a foreigner. You want to mascarade as a celebrity. "Who wants to touch me because I'm special?" Then as soon as you're not eating, out the door.

You don't want to sit on the sofa and talk to the son, so be it. Get in the kitchen and lend a hand. Learn some culture on how to prepare Korean food. Share stories on how things are done elsewhere. Be part of the program. Bring some pictures over or something from back home to share. Hell, bring an appetizer if you really want. "I call these nachos!" and get all involved.

Or even better, thank them for making you dinner by inviting them over and making them dinner. Go all out and make a western dish. Then you can call the shots on if they should show up early or dine and dash. Though I suspect if they did a dine and dash, you'd be complaining to all who would listen than they were freeloaders or some other such label.

Stop seeing yourself as being better than everyone and that everyone should pay just to talk to you.

Realize the error of your ways and end your freeloading!

P.S. Bring a cake.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Gord. It is pretty pathetic when someone bitches about talking a little English with a student(such a tremendous burden) and they get a free meal as well. Then at the end, her beef is that she is giving up soooooooooo much money by "only" getting a meal out of it. Gee, I am sure that your Super English skills are so bright that everyone shimmers in awe. If you don't want to do it, why are you doing it? Just say, "No". Or are your English skills limited in that capacity? Just shut up with the whining and talk with the kid...or simply say..."No". Not real difficult, is it?
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And our newest incarnation is....Gord, Captain Culturally Sensitive 2.0!

Can we have a collective ooh and aah from the unattached ladies please!
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Gord's newest line of attack. Whenever someone posts anything negative about Korean (no matter if the majority of their previous posts have been in support of Koreans) he screams "racism!" Anybody who disagrees with him is a racist or so he would have people believe. It is amazing how he always ignores the actual message in posts. When someone invites you for dinner, it is not "freeloading" to assume that it will be a social occasion not a working one.
Just ignore him Mr. Kiddirts. As for your situation just tell them the next time they invite you "thanks but no thanks." That should get the message across.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiddirts i feel for ya. i've learned to totally avoid requests from koreans i don't know, as they're so transparent. I was pursued by this girl who wanted me to be her best friend and hang out, obviously for free English. I had nothing much in common with her and didn't know her from Adam, so never respond.. saw her again yesterday in the street, said a polite hello and walked on by as if I was very busy...they must think I'm a snob but my free time is for me..
I also avoid privates in the first place- as they tend to want awkward times, try to extend the lesson, etc etc. Free time is sacred to me.
They think we were all born yesterday.
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Kiddirts



Joined: 25 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

exactly...
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 6:17 am    Post subject: Been there.. Reply with quote

Kidd,

I think you've got your solution at hand, and follow through with it. I've been here for (I think) 6 years, and have had my run-ins with the like. For me, well, depends on many an issue. It does annoy me, and no, I don't have a Cracker Syndrome....even my relatives do it to me, and I can't say 'no' without some backlash. Ahhh, viva la busy schedule.

Yes, yes, they're family, but my wife's extended family. These people didn't (for 20 years) come to her parents' house but twice a year. Now that I've moved in (quit my job teaching, now growing a vineyard and studying) to my in-laws' house, these relatives are down every other weekend (and sometimes surprise visits). I normally am working on the farm, but when they come, they say they'll do the work, while I sit in the room with the kids giving lessons. Yeah yeah, piss off, I do prefer working in the garden.

Luckily for me, I do speak Korean, so when the 'friends or whomever' pull this on me, I am able to chat freely with them in their language. Buuuhahaha.

Sorry, ain't much a 10 year old is gonna teach me.

Shoosh,

Ryst
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Starperson



Joined: 23 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They know exactly what they're doing. I've had people come up in public and ask me to edit their printed English website there on the spot!
Just embarrass them, by saying, "You want me to teach your son English until dinner? " (After dinner: "Oh, I should teach English AGAIN??? I'm so TIRED!"), while looking them straight in the eye.

Maybe even put on your best Korean whining voice.
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