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Metsuke
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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shapeshifter
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Location: Paris
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: still quite curious about this |
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| What could you possibly mean by "professional relationships"? |
2 people in a monogamous relationship, both working, both planning a future with each other, families aware and supportive of their relationship. |
I still don't really get it. What if one person works while the other stays at home or just does a bit of volunteer work now and then? Would that make the relationship unprofessional?
What if both people are hard-working, monogamous and totally committed to the relationship but for one reason or another, they don't have the support of one or both sets of parents?
I'd sleep better if we just could just agree that "professional relationship" is a silly and meaningless concept.
Do we have a deal? |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| Canuck Teacher wrote: |
I see there is still one area of life -age- in which it's ok to make broad generalizations and use stereotypes. Ageism is just as misguided as sexism and racism. I've met 25-year-old people who are as dumb as nails, and i've met 17 year olds who can actually hold an intelligent, thoughtful convesation about life, love and labour. Age is only a vague indicator of experience, intelligence and maturity.
While we are tossing out stereotypes, its been my experience teaching high school in North America that there is no more dangerous and manipulative an animal than a teen; boys and girls!
Buyer beware. |
You sound like you are trying very hard to justify something to yourself. |
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oskinny1
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: |
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9 year olds getting married in Yemen!? 
I am betting that OP's native country has laws that say he isn't allowed to have sex with anybody under at least 16 (I know it's 16 for the US) even outside his homeland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_Act_of_2003 |
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Canuck Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
You sound like you are trying very hard to justify something to yourself. |
Justify? Since when is stating the obvious, albeit politically incorrect, anything other than just that? Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.
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open your mind before you open your mouth |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: still quite curious about this |
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| shapeshifter wrote: |
| Bibbitybop wrote: |
Shapeshifter:
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| What could you possibly mean by "professional relationships"? |
2 people in a monogamous relationship, both working, both planning a future with each other, families aware and supportive of their relationship. |
I still don't really get it. What if one person works while the other stays at home or just does a bit of volunteer work now and then? Would that make the relationship unprofessional?
What if both people are hard-working, monogamous and totally committed to the relationship but for one reason or another, they don't have the support of one or both sets of parents?
I'd sleep better if we just could just agree that "professional relationship" is a silly and meaningless concept.
Do we have a deal? |
I was giving an example of a couple I've known.
I think professional relationship really applies to two people in their line of business, like between two co-workers or a boss and his/her employees.
But the concept of professional relationship in a romantic relationship should maybe be described as a respectable relationship or a serious relationship where there is honesty, trust and care. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| If she's not out of high school don't even think about it. |
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thebum
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| If she's not out of high school don't even think about it. |
so dropouts are ok? |
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JeJuJitsu
Joined: 11 Sep 2005
Location: McDonald's
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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"Although the age of consent in South Korea is 13, |
Booya!! GiggityGiggityGiggity
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esetters21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
"Although the age of consent in South Korea is 13, |
Booya!! GiggityGiggityGiggity
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I'm sure that those ages don't apply to foreigners getting involved with someone that young. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| thebum wrote: |
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| If she's not out of high school don't even think about it. |
so dropouts are ok? |
99% of them don't drop out here. The just keep failing, and failing, and failing again they 'graduate'.
Come to think of it I did date a 17-year-old drop-out when I was 20. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Real Reality should answer this, but I do believe the age is 19 (by Korean standards).
Otis, 100 years ago in the USA, there was a problem if you weren't married around 15 or 16. Married and ready to pop out babies. Age is relative to society. There's nothing wrong with an 22 year old sleeping with an 18 year old as long as it's consentual. 16 is low, but 16 year olds can be criminally charged as adults in the USA, so 16 seems ok by that standard. 14? Maybe a bit young for 22, in my opinion, but but for an 18 year old, ???? Hmmm.... |
Yeah, you keep believing that.
16 isn't low. 16 is criminal.
Thank God I don't have a daughter with guys like you on the prowl. |
No kidding. What next? Well it's ok for a 14 year old to sleep with 12 year old as long as it's mutual. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| Canuck Teacher wrote: |
I see there is still one area of life -age- in which it's ok to make broad generalizations and use stereotypes. Ageism is just as misguided as sexism and racism. I've met 25-year-old people who are as dumb as nails, and i've met 17 year olds who can actually hold an intelligent, thoughtful convesation about life, love and labour. Age is only a vague indicator of experience, intelligence and maturity.
While we are tossing out stereotypes, its been my experience teaching high school in North America that there is no more dangerous and manipulative an animal than a teen; boys and girls!
Buyer beware. |
You sound like you are trying very hard to justify something to yourself. |
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| Justify? Since when is stating the obvious, albeit politically incorrect, anything other than just that? Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. |
No, saying that it's not OK to have sex with adolescents is not "ageism" or "political correctness." It's a statement about ethical and moral behavior.
If you meet an intelligent teenager who's a good conversationalist, then have a good conversation with them. Spend time together in a non-sexual way. But it is not OK to sleep with them.
Their bodies may seem mature, they may be able to reproduce, and they may be intelligent, but they are not emotionally fully-developed. This has been borne out by brain studies using FMRIs. The connections between the intellectual parts and the emotional parts of their brains are still "under construction," so to speak. In other words, they may be very intelligent, but they are not yet able to use that intelligence to exercise restraint on their emotions.
Check out these links and articles.
Decision-making is Still a Work in Progress for Teenagers
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| Recent studies of brain development in teenagers may finally give parents the scientific authority to say "No you're not!" in answer to the common adolescent complaint, "But I'm old enough to make my own decisions!" That authority comes from brain imaging studies that reveal some surprising features of the adolescent brain. |
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The researchers found that when processing emotions, adults have greater activity in their frontal lobes(1) than do teenagers. Adults also have lower activity in their amygdala(2) than teenagers. In fact, as teenagers age into adulthood, the overall focus of brain activity seems to shift from the amygdala to the frontal lobes.
The frontal lobes of the brain have been implicated in behavioral inhibition, the ability to control emotions and impulses.
The frontal lobes are also thought to be the place where decisions about right and wrong, as well as cause-effect relationships are processed. In contrast, the amygdala is part of the limbic system of the brain and is involved in instinctive "gut" reactions, including "fight or flight" responses. Lower activity in the frontal lobe could lead to poor control over behavior and emotions, while an overactive amygdala may be associated with high levels of emotional arousal and reactionary decision-making.
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(1) Frontal lobe: One of the four divisions of each hemisphere of the cerebral cortex that include the parietal, temporal,
occipital. The site of emotions, personality, cognitive and motor functions.
(2) Amygdala: A part of the basal ganglia named for its almond shape. The amygdala is thought to be involved with emotion and memory formation. |
What Makes Teens Tick?
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| It is the project of Dr. Jay Giedd (pronounced Geed), chief of brain imaging in the child psychiatry branch at the National Institute of Mental Health. Giedd, 43, has devoted the past 13 years to peering inside the heads of 1,800 kids and teenagers using high-powered magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). For each volunteer, he creates a unique photo album, taking MRI snapshots every two years and building a record as the brain morphs and grows. |
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Before the imaging studies by Giedd and his collaborators at UCLA, Harvard, the Montreal Neurological Institute and a dozen other institutions, most scientists believed the brain was largely a finished product by the time a child reached the age of 12. Not only is it full-grown in size, Giedd explains, but "in a lot of psychological literature, traced back to [Swiss psychologist Jean] Piaget, the highest rung in the ladder of cognitive development was about age 12�formal operations." In the past, children entered initiation rites and started learning trades at about the onset of puberty.
Some theorists concluded from this that the idea of adolescence was an artificial construct, a phenomenon invented in the post-Industrial Revolution years. Giedd's scanning studies proved what every parent of a teenager knows: not only is the brain of the adolescent far from mature, but both gray and white matter undergo extensive structural changes well past puberty. |
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... because the brain regions that put the brakes on risky, impulsive behavior are still under construction.
"The parts of the brain responsible for things like sensation seeking are getting turned on in big ways around the time of puberty," says Temple University psychologist Laurence Steinberg. "But the parts for exercising judgment are still maturing throughout the course of adolescence. So you've got this time gap between when things impel kids toward taking risks early in adolescence, and when things that allow people to think before they act come online. It's like turning on the engine of a car without a skilled driver at the wheel." |
Teenage Brain: A work in progress
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Another series of MRI studies is shedding light on how teens may process emotions differently than adults.
Using functional MRI (fMRI), a team led by Dr. Deborah Yurgelun-Todd at Harvard's McLean Hospital scanned subjects' brain activity while they identified emotions on pictures of faces displayed on a computer screen.5 Young teens, who characteristically perform poorly on the task, activated the amygdala, a brain center that mediates fear and other "gut" reactions, more than the frontal lobe. As teens grow older, their brain activity during this task tends to shift to the frontal lobe, leading to more reasoned perceptions and improved performance. |
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Travelous Maximus
Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Location: Nueva Anglia
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| it's 13. you'll be ok. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Please don't come to Korea.
If you're already here, please leave.
Asians need another pedophile like they need a hole in the head. |
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