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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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A serious problem in Korea is that the police doesn't do anything to help victims. So the government basically aids the abusers. I know someone who got assaulted and got no help from the police. What is the point of the police if they won't do anything?
Also, my best friend in Korea knew of a girl in Cheonan who was almost raped. Some guy busts into her place and tries to rape her. The neighbours did try to help. The cops did nothing. So, she goes and buys a baseball bat. He tries it again, she hits a home run on his head. He gets seriously injured than Korean police are interested in doing something saying she went too far and not to go anywhere. Needless to say, the girl left Korea as fast as she could. I understand that they have very similar problems in Japan. Violence is bad in Japan vis-a-vis women.
Korean women need to be encouraged to pursue justice, but they must believe there is justice for them and so do women who are in danger and happen to be foreigners. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I think as you begin to see Korea develop more and get more of a western influence, your going to see violent crime skyrocket. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
A serious problem in Korea is that the police doesn't do anything to help victims. So the government basically aids the abusers. I know someone who got assaulted and got no help from the police. What is the point of the police if they won't do anything?
Also, my best friend in Korea knew of a girl in Cheonan who was almost raped. Some guy busts into her place and tries to rape her. The neighbours did try to help. The cops did nothing. So, she goes and buys a baseball bat. He tries it again, she hits a home run on his head. He gets seriously injured than Korean police are interested in doing something saying she went too far and not to go anywhere. Needless to say, the girl left Korea as fast as she could. I understand that they have very similar problems in Japan. Violence is bad in Japan vis-a-vis women.
Korean women need to be encouraged to pursue justice, but they must believe there is justice for them and so do women who are in danger and happen to be foreigners. |
What she did was very risky. What do you think would have happened had the guy gotten the baseball bat from her?
Korean ladies need pepper spray. Blind the guy and run to the police. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| I think as you begin to see Korea develop more and get more of a western influence, your going to see violent crime skyrocket. |
On the contrary, I think you'll see domestic abuse falling as women are gradually empowered. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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There was an attempted rape in my apartment building a few weeks ago. I woke up at around 3 a.m. to these terrified screams of some girl. It sounded like she was running down the stairs as she was screaming. I threw on some clothes and went down the stairs and outside, but no one was around. I was told by a fellow tenant (who speaks English) that some guy had got into our building and tried to rape this Korean girl. Apparently,
he'd been stalking her for a while. Our building changed the security lock on the front door. The guy I spoke to knows the girl and, apparently, she won't contact the police!! I just don't get that. If she doesn't do something, he's going to try again. I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized.
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| Doogie wrote: |
| I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized. |
If only this was localized to Korean women. Alas, not even close for most of the world, and even in the West it still happens way more frequently than most realize. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Doogie wrote: |
| I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized. |
She has no recourse, and "doing something about it" will leave her in a worse position than doing nothing.
The police would show up, stand around, take the mans side, befor letting it go.
If she wanted to press charges, the cops would loathe her even more. her reputation would be ruined and there would be nothing to protect her when they fine her for wasting their time.
Of many domestic abuse cases over the years in korea, the only one the police acted on was when the husband actually paralysed his wife by breaking a chair over her spine. Thats what it takes before they do anything here. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Doogie wrote: |
| I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized. |
She has no recourse, and "doing something about it" will leave her in a worse position than doing nothing.
The police would show up, stand around, take the mans side, befor letting it go.
If she wanted to press charges, the cops would loathe her even more. her reputation would be ruined and there would be nothing to protect her when they fine her for wasting their time.
Of many domestic abuse cases over the years in korea, the only one the police acted on was when the husband actually paralysed his wife by breaking a chair over her spine. Thats what it takes before they do anything here. |
It is sad. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: |
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There was an attempted rape in my apartment building a few weeks ago. I woke up at around 3 a.m. to these terrified screams of some girl. It sounded like she was running down the stairs as she was screaming. I threw on some clothes and went down the stairs and outside, but no one was around. I was told by a fellow tenant (who speaks English) that some guy had got into our building and tried to rape this Korean girl. Apparently,
he'd been stalking her for a while. Our building changed the security lock on the front door. The guy I spoke to knows the girl and, apparently, she won't contact the police!! I just don't get that. If she doesn't do something, he's going to try again. I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized. |
Look, Korea is an advanced country when it comes to technology. However, when it comes to the situation for women it is between Amsterdam and some countries in Latin America and the Middle East.
They really need to crack down on domestic violence, but the forces of sexism are extremely strong here. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| I'd say its improving. More and more women are working and they are shedding their reliance on their husbands. A woman that makes her own money is less likely to take crap from her husband. |
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oneofthesarahs
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| Doogie wrote: |
| I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized. |
Hate to break it to you, but that's not quite empathy, buddy. And nobody waits around to be victimized. That's like saying that rape victims deserve it because they were wearing a short skirt.
And unfortunately, it's not like this is a Korea-specific problem. According to the CDC, in the United States every year, about 1.5 million women and more than 800,000 men are raped or physically assaulted by an intimate partner. Most IPV (intimate partner violence) incidents are not reported to the police. About 20% of IPV rapes or sexual assaults, 25% of physical assaults, and 50% of stalkings directed toward women are reported.
A women might not report violence toward her for multiple reasons: if her spouse were to leave/put in jail, she would have no financial support or home; fear of losing children, if they are in the picture, fear of authorities not believing her; fear of significant other getting off and she gets beat even more; genuine belief that she deserves it because of the constant berating; embarassment/being ashamed of getting into the situation in the first place; etc. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| oneofthesarahs wrote: |
| Doogie wrote: |
| I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized. |
Hate to break it to you, but that's not quite empathy, buddy. And nobody waits around to be victimized. That's like saying that rape victims deserve it because they were wearing a short skirt.
And unfortunately, it's not like this is a Korea-specific problem. According to the CDC, in the United States every year, about 1.5 million women and more than 800,000 men are raped or physically assaulted by an intimate partner. Most IPV (intimate partner violence) incidents are not reported to the police. About 20% of IPV rapes or sexual assaults, 25% of physical assaults, and 50% of stalkings directed toward women are reported.
A women might not report violence toward her for multiple reasons: if her spouse were to leave/put in jail, she would have no financial support or home; fear of losing children, if they are in the picture, fear of authorities not believing her; fear of significant other getting off and she gets beat even more; genuine belief that she deserves it because of the constant berating; embarassment/being ashamed of getting into the situation in the first place; etc. |
It is a global problem. However, simply saying it is a global problem is like saying poverty is an issue in every country while downplaying the situation in Zimbabwe in Africa. Chile, officially, is worse than South Korea, but we can't be sure what it is in reality since many Koreans do not report things. I am sure many Latin American women do not either.
If Chilean women are more likely due to culture to speak out and go to the police and they are more likely to do something, then it may be the reason why they look worse. There seems to be no use here to report crimes against women. The police don't appear to take them seriously.
Someone I know went to the police. The police did nothing at all for her. She was beaten up very badly. She also had proof he threatened her.
The cops back home would have hauled him into the station. The cops here don't do much for the women. Of course, most English teachers who are women are safe in this country and don't have problems, most Korean men are pretty decent, but many women are surprised to find the police won't do anything to prosecute individuals who made the victims.
Hopefully, more Korean professional women will exercise their power to protect all women including their daughters. They never know when their daughters could be victims in front of a do nothing police officer. |
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gkee2
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: Violence against women |
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| Instead of just talking about the violence in society, why don't we do something about it? This Sunday, April 15 at 3 pm the KWHL (Korean Women's Hotline), Volunteers Crossing Borders will have a meeting to discuss ways we can improve the quality of life for women in Korea. Our group is made up of all foreign volunteers and a Korean coordinator. We are planning a fundraising in mid-May to raise money for the women's shelters. We can always use more volunteers. So if you'd like to come, we're meeting at Starbucks in Ida. Take Line 2, Ewha Women's University exit #3. Hope to see you there. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Violence against women |
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| Instead of just talking about the violence in society, why don't we do something about it? This Sunday, April 15 at 3 pm the KWHL (Korean Women's Hotline), Volunteers Crossing Borders will have a meeting to discuss ways we can improve the quality of life for women in Korea. Our group is made up of all foreign volunteers and a Korean coordinator. We are planning a fundraising in mid-May to raise money for the women's shelters. We can always use more volunteers. So if you'd like to come, we're meeting at Starbucks in Ida. Take Line 2, Ewha Women's University exit #3. Hope to see you there. |
I can't make it this Sunday. Can you give more information. What kind of hours are available for people volunteering. I personally don't mind donating that I don't have a lot of cash. Something is better than nothing. I am not sure if I will go or not. Give some more information about the volunteering and what you guys need and the hours for volunteering.
Thanks.. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought volunteering was illegal for E'2's? |
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