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[Satori]

Very nice...

[Rteacher]

Atheists of various stripes are essentially all A-holes...

Only people whose intelligence has been stolen by illusion can't appreciate the distinction between the existence of one supreme God who is the source of everything personal and impersonal and the millions of superhuman demigods derived from and empowered (by the one supreme God) to regulate specialized functions of universal management.

God - the supreme lawmaker - is obviously not subject to any material laws - of which He is the source. Therefore material proof of His existence is actually an immaterial, irrational demand...

We are not in a position to demand anything from God - of which we are but infinitessimal parts-and-parcels meant to render transcendental loving service (without material motivation or impediment...)

Due to contaminated consciousness we are presently unable to understand God. Rather than uselessy speculating on whether-or-not God exists, we'd be better off purifiying our senses by following the instructions of Bhagavad-gita and of those realized souls who have perfected their eternal existence in relation to God.

...Trying to see God by our own efforts is just like trying to see the sun when it is dark outside. If we say, "Oh, I have a very strong flashlight, and I shall search out the sun," we will not be able to see it. But in the morning, when the sun rises out of its own will, we can see it. Similarly, we cannot see God by our own endeavor, because our senses are all imperfect. We have to purify our senses and wait for the time when God will be pleased to reveal Himself before us. This is the process of Krsna consciousness. We cannot challenge, "Oh, my dear God, my dear Krsna, You must come before me, I shall see you." No. God is not our order supplier, our servant. When He is pleased with us, we'll see Him.
http://www.prabhupadaconnect.com/lecture1.html

[ED209]

If you're looking for the sun Rteacher it's right between your left buttock and your right.

[Rteacher]

God certainly reserves the right not to reveal himself to envious rascals (some of which end up taking birth as maggots in stool, having to wait millions of years before evolving to another human body - ultimately meant only for spiritual realization and understanding God...)

[thepeel]

[thepeel]

[ED209]

Anything happier than a maggot in stool? So long as it's not yours.

[ED209]

[Rteacher]

The best evidence is perfect knowledge spoken originally by God and transmitted via disciplic successions of pure devotee spiritual masters ...

... A human life is distinguished from animal life due to its heavy responsibilities. Those who are cognizant of these responsibilities and who work in that spirit are called suras (godly persons), and those who are neglectful of these responsibilities or who have no information of them are called asuras (demons). These two types of human beings are found all over the universe. In the Rg Veda it is stated that the suras always aim at the lotus feet of the Supreme Lord Visnu and act accordingly. Their ways are as illuminated as the path of the sun.

Intelligent human beings must always remember that this particular bodily form is obtained after an evolution of many millions of years and after long transmigration. This material world is sometimes compared to an ocean, and this human body is compared with a solid boat designed especially to cross this ocean. The Vedic scriptures and the acaryas, or saintly teachers, are compared to expert boatmen, and the facilities of the human body are compared to favorable breezes which help the boat ply smoothly to its desired destination. If, with all these facilities, a person does not fully utilize his life for self-realization, he must be considered atma-ha, a killer of the soul. Sri Isopanisad gives warning in clear terms that the killer of the soul is destined to enter into the darkest region of ignorance to suffer perpetually.

There are swine, dogs, camels, asses, etc., whose economic necessities are just as important as ours, but the economic problems of these animals are only solved under nasty and unpleasant conditions. The human being is given all facilities for a comfortable life by the laws of nature because the human form of life is more important and valuable than animal life. Why does man have a better life than the swine and other animals? Why is he a highly placed servant given all facilities rather than an ordinary clerk? The answer is that a highly placed officer has to discharge duties of a higher nature; a human being has higher duties to perform than animals who are always engaged in simply feeding their hungry stomachs. Yet modern soul-killing civilization has only increased the problems of a hungry stomach. When we approach a polished animal in the form of modern civilized man and ask him what his business is, he will say that he simply wants to work to satisfy his stomach and that there is no need for self-realization. The laws of nature are so cruel, however, that despite his eagerness to work hard for his stomach, he is always threatened by the question of unemployment.

We are given this human form of life not to work hard like asses and swine, but to attain the highest perfection of life. If we do not care for self-realization, the laws of nature force us to work very hard, even though we may not want to do so. Human beings in this age have been forced to work hard like the asses and bulls that pull carts. Some of the regions where the asuras are sent to work are revealed in this verse of Sri Isopanisad. If a man fails to discharge his duties as a human being, he is forced to transmigrate to the asurya planets and take birth in degraded species of life to work hard in ignorance and darkness...
http://members.shaw.ca/kavaca/Sri_Isopanisad.htm

[thepeel]

[ED209]

[Rteacher]

I heard it from a spiritual master (obviously I'm not smart enough to speculate anything that elegant myself...)

[thepeel]

[RACETRAITOR]

Hopefully soon Wikipedia will feature an article on nutbag cults, and Rteacher can have his say. Just stay away from the blue Kool-Aid until then.

[Rteacher]

In Vedic terms, there are four authorized disciplic successions - each with various main branches and sub-branches - that originate with spiritual authorities linked to Krishna at least 5000 years ago.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who I was initiated by in 1974, is linked to the disciplic succession stemming from Brahma, and including Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (Krishna incarnating as a devotee of Himself about 500 years ago...)

There are many qualifications given for spiritual masters (or gurus...) The most important is that they've received the blessings from their spiritual master and purely transmit perfect knowledge (originally coming from God) without any adulteration...
http://guru.krishna.org/
http://www.harekrsna.com/philosophy/gss/sadhu/sampradayas/brahma/brahma.htm