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ratslash

Joined: 08 May 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:43 am Post subject: |
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ignore him.
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get everybody to be really cold towards him. kind of like, flash mob your coldness!
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tell him to back off. |
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William Beckerson Guest
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:53 am Post subject: |
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I can teach you how to deliver a devistating Angle Slam to the guy |
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Seoultrader

Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Working with a disturbed co-worker aka freaky waygook!! |
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mika_21 wrote: |
Hi guys,
I am working with this guy who is disturbed.
He refused to talk to foreigners, keeps going on and on about the evils of Western women and labelling them all "feminazis" in their presence, keeps obsessing about an ex-Western woman coworker, calls all foreigners "white eyes."
This may seem like a joke, in light of recent threads, but it's not. I can tell that he's seriously making some of the Western women feel uncomfortable going to work.
He also keeps hitting on the Korean girls, but they are also wanting him to back off because of his overall bad attitude and unfriendliness. If he treats people from his own country so badly we are scared to date him and want nothing to do with him. But this is at work so we remain civil.
If he has his preferences, that's his business, but he seems to be quite vocal about them and is offending the other workers. Especially the women by talking bad in front of them
I like to work in a professional environment and am kinda disturbed by this.
I have discussed this with the other teachers and nobody knows what to do.
We all know that everybody should feel comfortable coming to work.
This is not a joke, please help but I cannot post in any more details. |
Two alternatives:
1. You can ignore the numbnut. Sticks and stones. Screw him.
2. You do something about it.
I lean toward #2, specifically the sit-down suggestion (Sopranos-style). If that doesn't help, I like rapier's alternative. Some jerkos simply should not be here (or anywhere, teaching).
It just irks me that a peniscranium like this may eventually end up teaching my niece. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:28 am Post subject: |
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CanEducator said:
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In the case of a co-worker who is psychologically unwell, and who acts out behaviours which are upsetting or scaring a number of staff members, it is best that a supervisor deal with the situation. There is no onus on individual teaching staff members to put themselves at risk by trying to deal with an unwell person one-on-one. Leave it to the supervisor |
Well, we have pretty much this situation. We have a guy who is clearly "psychologically unwell" and causing loads of trouble. The students even say that this is a problem.
BUT, the powers that be don't want to make waves. They want to "maintain harmony". WE are all being told to be nice to this person, and not give him any reason to make problems. In other words, it is our problem. His favorite trick is to pit everyone against each other, and he is currently at work on new teachers. We, meanwhile, are being asked to not say anything to them about him. It will take the new teachers a while to figure out that this guy is at least paranoid schitzo, meanwhile they will start mistrusting the rest of us. It is a horibble mess, and no one with any authority wants to deal with it.
I can understand and appreciate the harmony thing when it comes to the small, and maybe even medium stuff, but this is neither. |
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William Beckerson Guest
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:19 am Post subject: |
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The lot of you threatening to walk out would do it. |
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Squid

Joined: 25 Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Anyang
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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From Squid the delegate:
Finding behavioural problems in a co-worker?
1. Keep a written record of instances of disturbances, those present and the date and time. Keep it brief and as objective as possible.
2. At the soonest possible date after a disturbance, get the written record signed by those affected and give it to your supervisor. Do not make any suggestions to remedial action.
3. Respect whatever outcome is then reached.
Keep posting problems like this and I'll keep offering the same advice: WRITE IT DOWN.
Yours helpfully. |
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CanEducator
Joined: 27 Apr 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:13 pm Post subject: Documentation |
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Desuetude: Another suggestion is to document the co-worker's behaviour. Be as accurate as possible, with a succinct description of specific incidents and behaviours, what people were present, and dates/times whenever possible. If translated as well, get the translations to be simple and clear. Describe specifically the effect the person is having on others. You could write it up as a group, and hand it in to the person in authority as a group.
If this is a long-term situation and documentation procedure is repeated several times, hopefully the person/people in authority will take it seriously. From my past experience in an academic program in Korea, the people in authority understood the context of how seriously unwell one specific person was after a certain amount of time had passed. The person's contract was not renewed.
If documentation is not workable for this situation, think of what will communicate effectively to the supervisors that the situation is serious and needs to be addressed. Contact EFL.Law and see if they have any suggestions. They may have been asked about similar situations before. It's a sad burden for you to have to do something like this at all. |
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CanEducator
Joined: 27 Apr 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:15 pm Post subject: Hi Squid |
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Squid- You and I must have been on the same brainwave, I just posted my response and saw yours! Cheers!
Good luck Mika and Desuetude. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'd usually take BTM's tact and suggest one speak with the offender directly. However, if my university feminist friends taught me anything it was that there's a serious power imbalance and intimidation factor when the guy is acting offensive in the workplace. Imagine how much more so in the hierarchy of Korean man-woman relations!
I suggest Mika, as a Korean woman, might feel more comfortable talking to the foreign teachers about this before confronting the man or complaining to the boss. The foreign teachers, men or women, have more influence than she does, and any actions THEY demand, under the banner of solidarity, will get immediate results. Not by giving a longterm series of general complaints but by stating the problem, demanding a solution, and reaching a resolution with the offender and the director. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, we are all working on this. Our one big hope is contract time. But we are not convinced that he won't "show a good face" long enough to convince the admin. that he has had a change of heart. Several of us have made it clear that we won't return if he does. Its too bad, because it is a great gig otherwise. It seems like actually firing someone takes something like rape or murder. |
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Medic
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Anybody tried to find out what he did before he came to Korea? Might give you some insight.
Another thing. Ask him where he graduated from. Could be he has a fake degree. Employment agencies supply people with bogus degrees before they send them over here. If this is the case, he might convicingly string you along, but it wouldn't hurt to do some checking. |
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Daami
Joined: 27 May 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:07 am Post subject: |
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...yes, yes... all good advice.
But really... are you sure it's white eyes or WIDE eyes?
...just buggin' me is all. |
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Squid

Joined: 25 Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Anyang
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Just thanks to Caned. for the backup on this thread- and a note that in this highly rigid and male dominated (sic.) heirarchic society, as a poster mentioned, ink on an offender is noticed and is usually actioned. Hearsay is often dismissed.
Though I have seen the other side of this situation, that perhaps a newcomer to a workplace has caused friction with his or her blunt style of communication or the misunderstanding of colleagues generally due to his or her behavior it seems this may not fit into those categories.
Whatever- I forgot to mention the obvious, when taking a documented record, always keep a copy- and distribute one each to signatories.
I hope OP's situation is resolved soon.
Squid, seen too many of these. |
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Medic
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding previous post.
If perchance your freaky waeguk has a bogus degree, blackmail him with it saying you will turn him in if he doesn't watch his Ps and Qs. |
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