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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yawarakaijin wrote:
It just kills me that up until the moment invaded kuwait, shot a US planes, defied sanctions and didn't roll over like a biatch after he lost the war, he was America's sweetheart in the middle east.

Let's take a look at some of the things he did while he had US suppourt.

- Instigated a war against Iran that cost hundreds of thousands of lives
- Gassed the Kurds. Funny I didn't hear of that justifying his overthrow at the time.

Hundreds of thousands of muslims dying at the hands of Hussein, no biggie. The possible threat that he may have weapons and may give them to terrorists to harm Americans........time to invade boys.

Now, I'm no bleeding heart liberal. I understand real politik. But COME ON. Iraqis are not stupid people! The had/have one of the higest literacy rates in the entire region. You really expect them not to care about the hypocracy of America's position on this?

Sure they hated Saddam, but they also knew where his money and suppourt came from. If your brother or father was gassed or sent of to war in Iran and didn't come back or came back horribly scarred would you just sit back and warmly welcome a regime that was PARTLY responsible. Remember when Bush 1 hinted that it was time for an uprising to finish off Saddam? People rose up. And then, under the nose of the entire American military, Bush 1 let Saddam just go to town and slaughter them. Granted they may have been regional and strategic considerations for this but you can't just expect people to bend over and get reamed up the as$ time and time again. Seriously, are there any numbers on the casualties Saddam inflicted after that uprising? Knowing him it must have been massive. All under the noses of the western powers and with their tacit approval. Then we just expect them to welcome us with open arms....unfuking believable. Turn the tables and we would expect any western nation to do exactly what Iraqis are doing now.

Our capability to tar others as somehow inhuman or with intrinsically inferior traits is unbelievable. Enter an Americans house without permission and he is legally entitled to blow your fu#king head off. Yet an Iraqi, with all the indiginities they have suffered, are somehow supposed to roll over and take it up the poop chute.

"oh, why do they hate ussssssssss?" Confused

"they are just a bunch of fuking animals, that's why." Confused


I don't think America is the great satan. It's a wonderful place with wonderful ideals for the most part. But come on, other people half way around the world are just as human and if you fuk with them you better be prepared for the blow back.


You have a lot of good points at the same time:


Russia , France and Germany each gave Saddam far more stuff than the US did.


Saddam invaded Iran on his own the US didn't get him to do it.

But at any rate the Khomeni who was a far bigger killer than Pinochet was after the US. The US also supported Stalin during WW II if you remember.

In the end the US for 10 years protected muslims in Iraq from Saddam

Since Iraq is 60% Shia and 20% Kurds most Iraqis are glad the US took out Saddam.

The Kurds support the US outright and the US has important Shia and Sunni allies as well. About 1/3 of the Sunni innsurgent groups are no longer fighting the US , instead they are now fighting for the US against Al Qaeda.
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