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Living With Leprosy (O.K., Feeling Like a Leper)
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Marlboro



Joined: 31 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen this so many times, but more towards south asian guys, its disgusting,and some make a point of not standing/sitting next to them. i can understand how you are made to feel inferior, Hope things get better for you,

PS: I would have no problem sitting next to you Very Happy
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Seoul_Star



Joined: 04 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love how Koreans do this! What's even better is when they walk onto the train and the only seat empty is the one next to you... with some Koreans, you can actually look into their eyes and see that they are debating it (hmmmm hmmmmm, sit next to a foriegner or stand, hmmm hmmmmm) and then they look at you closer and debate it over a little more before they apprehensively sit down. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is how progress begins.

One Korean person sits down next to you apprehensively, and before you know it, they pass the story along to their friends about how they sat next to a foreigner and didn't die or catch AIDS, and soon after their friend sits down next to a foreigner and reports a similar result.

Whenever I take a vacation back to civilization (or Thailand) I always do a little social experiment on the airport bus. I wait for the bus to fill up (seat next to me is always the last one taken despite my dashing good looks and above-average hygiene) and then when the seat next to me is the only one left, I put my carry on bag on the seat, thus blocking all potential Korean seat-mates. I then refuse to remove the bag until someone musters up the courage to ASK me to remove it so that they may sit. Awkward situation, but I feel that as Seoul's most eligible bachelor, the seat next to me should only be reserved for Korean Airline stewardesses; the lower orders can stand for all I care.

If it makes you feel any better, I never sit next to Koreans on the train or bus unless I absolutely have to. I heard that you can catch SARS if they cough on you, so if on occasion I do partake in the sitting, a mask is always donned to reduce the risk. Sit safely!
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q) What did the leper say to the prostitute?
A) I left you a tip!
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
JMO wrote:
I read a really good fantasy book were the main charachter had leprosy. I was looking forward to having a good talk about


Are you referring to the Thomas Covenant, the Unbeliever series?


Yea thats it. A fantastic if a little depressing, well more than a little. I thought it was really interesting the way he would always be checking his body for scrapes, cuts and the like. Gave me a real insight to the life of the leper.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
I have a very sweet Korean gal pal who is dating her first foreign boyfriend. He's not overly preoccupied with hygiene, and I tried to warn him that deodorant is a must but to avoid strong cologne, aftershave, etc. Anyway, I am not sure he took my advice, as she asked me after swimming lessons,

"Can Western people smell each other?"


Did you tell her that most western women would not date a smelly guy.

I wear deodorant. Have her PM me.
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Doogie



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marlboro wrote:
I have seen this so many times, but more towards south asian guys, its disgusting,and some make a point of not standing/sitting next to them. i can understand how you are made to feel inferior, Hope things get better for you,

PS: I would have no problem sitting next to you Very Happy

Thanks Marlboro Laughing , Just to re-emphasize, I'm not whining about this at all. I just think that you would have to be incredibly wary of somebody different to stand and be uncomfortable for 20+ minutes instead if sitting comfortably. It's a mystery to me Confused What was it the Elephant Man said...."I am not an animal!!" Laughing
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browneyedgirl



Joined: 17 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Living With Leprosy (O.K., Feeling Like a Leper) Reply with quote

Wow, I think I'm going to like Korea...people always want to sit next to me even if the city bus is almost empty.
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulShakin wrote:
People always sit beside me. Never usually a problem.

Once in a blue moon, someone will look at me, and choose another empty seat, but they never stand for the ride just to avoid me. Sometimes it seems as though people try to sit beside me intentionally.

No leprosy here. Smile


That's because you're HOT!!!

Sorry, had to say it one day Twisted Evil

I just sit there with my nose buried in a book and heaps of people come and go beside me.

--> and I'm dark and look like a criminal, so go figure
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed it too. I dress well (Suits on most days) and I use plenty of deodorant. It wasn't this bad 11 years ago when I first came to Korea...things have changed. I'm not dark, I don't smell bad (My k-wife says I don't have any body odor smell at all) and yet, the seat next to me is almost always taken last at least 80% of the time I ride the subway. As another poster stated, I've learned to embrace it, and now welcome the open space next to me because it gives me more room.


For the poster that complained about cologne / perfume ... about half the engineers that I work with use polo and armani cologne on a daily basis, one guy even uses a patchouli fragrance if you can believe that.


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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doogie wrote:
schwa wrote:
I dont understand why men wear perfume (cologne, whatever) or women either when they slosh it on -- gives me a headache. I only notice this on expats.

How long have you been in Korea? Koreans do think we have a different scent. You long timers, am I wrong about this?


I have been told by more than one Korean that we smell like cheese and milk products. Laughing

Ajosshis smell like a combination of soju, cigarettes and kimchi.

And when we're really sweating in taekwondo....yeah, the Koreans' sweat smell differently than mine, too, even the females' sweat.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While riding the bus and subway, I've noticed that many Koreans don't like to sit next to anybody. For example, on the subway, if a seat with a free seat on either side (ie a row of three seats) becomes available, someone who is sitting directly next to someone will usually try and jump into it. Same on the bus. If 2 seats become available, somebody will move from their seat sitting next to somebody and go there. I've seen this so many times, and most times they are sitting next to other Koreans (as we foreigners are a small minority here). It bothered me at first, but I do the same now too. If I'm sat next to somebody on the subway, then a chance arises to have a free seat either side of me, I'll be straight in there. The golden prize is the seat at the end of the row, with nobody sitting next to you.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the milk and cheese smell gets a bit strong, I eat some raw garlic to even out the effect.

(Never take the subway in Gwangju, and most of the busses don't have two seats next to each other, so don't notice an effect on the leprosy treatment.)
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Doogie



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
Doogie wrote:
schwa wrote:
I dont understand why men wear perfume (cologne, whatever) or women either when they slosh it on -- gives me a headache. I only notice this on expats.

How long have you been in Korea? Koreans do think we have a different scent. You long timers, am I wrong about this?


I have been told by more than one Korean that we smell like cheese and milk products. Laughing

Ajosshis smell like a combination of soju, cigarettes and kimchi.

And when we're really sweating in taekwondo....yeah, the Koreans' sweat smell differently than mine, too, even the females' sweat.

Cheese and milk products?!? They have a smell? Maybe if it's mouldy cheese or bad milk. Laughing
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doogie wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
Doogie wrote:
schwa wrote:
I dont understand why men wear perfume (cologne, whatever) or women either when they slosh it on -- gives me a headache. I only notice this on expats.

How long have you been in Korea? Koreans do think we have a different scent. You long timers, am I wrong about this?


I have been told by more than one Korean that we smell like cheese and milk products. Laughing

Ajosshis smell like a combination of soju, cigarettes and kimchi.

And when we're really sweating in taekwondo....yeah, the Koreans' sweat smell differently than mine, too, even the females' sweat.

Cheese and milk products?!? They have a smell? Maybe if it's mouldy cheese or bad milk. Laughing


Good real cheese has a smell! This single-serving plastic wrapped "cheese" in Korea is what doesn't smell.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe the Korean was trying to talk about the smell of whomever cut the cheese
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