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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
I don't know Joo. You're the info guy...you tell us.
The fact remains that the number of people (engineers and others) who question the "official version" of what happened on 911 is growing.
And guess what? It will continue to do so until they have a real investigation.
By the way, can you even understand that last "sentence" you wrote? |
Make charge see it fall.
There already have been alot of investigations.
I have no problem with another one just as long as the 9-11 conspiracy theorists get a bill of the cost of another investigation.
The 9-11 conspiracy theorists say what they do not cause they care about the truth , but because they have an agenda to weaken the US government .
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| butlerian wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
How many engineers agree with the governments version of events.
Anyway why don't you bring up a conspiracy theory one at a time?
Go ahead try.
Here is a 9-11 conspiracy theory the 9-11 conspiracy theorists say what they do not cause they care about the truth but cause they wish to cause social disorder. |
Joo, you need to start broadening your horizons. Using only official information will not get you any closer to reality. Alternative media etc will provide you with a better picture. |
Alternative media's only objective is to say bad stuff about the US govt. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
Now go back and show me anywhere where these things I posted claim what you say they claim. |
The original article you cited (since edited) implies that Quintiere supports some sort of controlled demolition conspiracy theory. That is not the case. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Now you're making things worse for yourself.
The orignal article I posted was about a Zogby poll.
It mentions nothing about Quintiere.
You can click on the link if you like, show me where it makes these claims you're talking about. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
The orignal article I posted was about a Zogby poll.
It mentions nothing about Quintiere. |
Sorry, you are correct. The article which mentions Quintiere is cited in a later post. All other points stand. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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So this is the article you are talking about:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070908232528506
From that article, this is what is says about Quintiere:
An Aug. 21 article reported that James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division, called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable." Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation
I don't see any of these claims that you referred to....do you? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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As long as the 9-`11 theorists get a bill at end of the investigation then no problem.
I wonder if a class action suit against 9-11 conspiracy theorists like Michael Rivero and Jeff Rense for libel isn't possible. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. Given 1. the content of the website 2. the context of the article 3. the ommission of Quintiere's disclaimer. His support for some sort of 9/11 conspiracy theory is sufficiently implied. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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B.S.
You misread the article, made some false assumptions and then followed up by some false acusations. Now you are trying to cover your tracks and pretend that you knew what you were talking about.
Slow day at the office? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
B.S.
You misread the article, made some false assumptions and then followed up by some false acusations. Now you are trying to cover your tracks and pretend that you knew what you were talking about.
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No. The article tries to imply that Quintiere is a 9/11 "Truther". Omitting that he doesn't believe in a controlled demolition theory is either poor writing or misrepresentation. It could be the former, but I'd bet on the latter.
Why are you making such a big deal out of it? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I guess you'll have to call into question the motives of these guys too then.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070908232528506
September 8, 2007
by Alan Miller, PatriotsQuestion911.com
Dear Readers,
Over the last eight weeks a world renowned scientist and three nationally recognized engineers have called for a new investigation of 9/11, yet none of these have been reported in the mainstream media.
Most recently, on Sept. 4, Joel S. Hirschhorn, Ph.D., who served for 12 years as a Senior Staff Member of the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and later as Director of Environment, Energy and Natural Resources for the National Governors Association, called for a new investigation of 9/11, saying "First, let the technical truth emerge. Then, if necessary, cope with the inevitable political, conspiracy and other questions." Former Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member Calls for New Investigation of 9/11
On Aug. 27, Lynn Margulis, Ph.D., member of the National Academy of Sciences and world renowned scientist, characterized the official account of 9/11 as "a fraud" and called for a new investigation, "I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken." National Academy of Sciences Member Calls for New 9/11 Investigation
An Aug. 21 article reported that James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division, called for an independent review of the World Trade Center Twin Tower collapse investigation. "I wish that there would be a peer review of this," he said, referring to the NIST investigation. "I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they've done; both structurally and from a fire point of view. ... I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable." Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation
On July 16, J. Marx Ayres, former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council and former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission called for a new investigation of 9/11, "Steven Jones' call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that the WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fire, but through the use of pre-positioned 'cutter-charges' must be the rallying cry for all building design experts to speak out." Former California Seismic Safety Commissioner Endorses 9/11 Truth Movement
Additionally, this week, Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy �Top Gun� pilot, questioned the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. "When one starts using his own mind, and not what one was told, there is very little to believe in the official story." U.S. Navy 'Top Gun' Pilot Questions 9/11
The mainstream media has not covered any of these stories. Please help disseminate this critically important information by forwarding this story link: http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070908232528506.
And these too:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ |
That was the original article I posted.
Horse droppings! Nowhere does it say these people are "truthiers", whatever that means.
If you click on the link under Quentiere's quote it connects you to the full article, which clearly says that he does not agree with any controlled demolition theories.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=2007082201012280
Although Dr. Quintiere was strongly critical of NIST�s conclusions and its investigatory process, he made it clear he was not a supporter of theories that the Twin Towers were brought down by pre-planted explosives. �If you go to World Trade Center One, nine minutes before its collapse, there was a line of smoke that puffed out. This is one of the basis of the �conspiracy theories� that says the smoke puffing out all around the building is due to somebody setting off an explosive charge. Well, I think, more likely, it�s one of the floors falling down.�
The big deal is that you've been caught in a lie and now you want to run away. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Huff is a troofer? I don't think he is.. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Class action suit. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
The big deal is that you've been caught in a lie and now you want to run away. |
What a bunch of poppycock. I didn't lie and I'm not running. 911truth and patriotsquestion911 are clearly trying to piggyback on Quintiere's good name and title. They're so eager to associate with anyone who has a shred of credibility they'll even include someone who disagrees with their conclusions, but throw his out-of-context words into the middle of a bunch of bullshit so that they can obfuscate his real position. "Distortion" is about the nicest thing anyone could say about it. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: |
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