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English Matt

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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You know, I think it will just get easier and easier to just go and live wherever the hell you want.
Look at what is happening to trade: more open. So I guess it follows that if goods have free movement, so should people.
The EU is expanding.
Korea is talking about duel citizenship.
Not many countries are closing themselves off these days. They are opening up.
But on the other hand, all of these social programs (healthcare, public schools, ect) are crumbling.
You know, it may not be possible to simultaneously have strong social programs and free movement of people. Capitalism and social programs just don't go together. Like oil and water.
Capitalism encourages people to take all they can. But social programs ask people to be considerate. I don't think those two ideas can co-exist together successfully. |
And you have therein pointed out the real problem.....capitalism. So we need a different system. Capitalism is inhumane.....some people have more riches than they could ever need, others live in a toilet amongst human excrement. It allows a small elite to control the masses, whilst distracting them from this fact with talks about the collapse of social capital and welfare systems due to mass immigration. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| You are right, I believe that Islam is a distinctly intolerant ideology and that immigration to the UK has been running at far too high levels in recent years. |
This quote reminds me of the movie "Children of Men"- where toward the end of the movie, British troops were locks in house-to-house combat with Islamic insurgents in a southern city's immigrant ghetto.
Could you see that scenerio occurring in the UK? |
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Bog Roll
Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Location: JongnoGuru country. RIP mate.
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| You are right, I believe that Islam is a distinctly intolerant ideology and that immigration to the UK has been running at far too high levels in recent years. |
This quote reminds me of the movie "Children of Men"- where toward the end of the movie, British troops were locks in house-to-house combat with Islamic insurgents in a southern city's immigrant ghetto.
Could you see that scenerio occurring in the UK? |
Don't be so silly..  |
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| English Matt wrote: |
| youtuber wrote: |
You know, I think it will just get easier and easier to just go and live wherever the hell you want.
Look at what is happening to trade: more open. So I guess it follows that if goods have free movement, so should people.
The EU is expanding.
Korea is talking about duel citizenship.
Not many countries are closing themselves off these days. They are opening up.
But on the other hand, all of these social programs (healthcare, public schools, ect) are crumbling.
You know, it may not be possible to simultaneously have strong social programs and free movement of people. Capitalism and social programs just don't go together. Like oil and water.
Capitalism encourages people to take all they can. But social programs ask people to be considerate. I don't think those two ideas can co-exist together successfully. |
And you have therein pointed out the real problem.....capitalism. So we need a different system. Capitalism is inhumane.....some people have more riches than they could ever need, others live in a toilet amongst human excrement. It allows a small elite to control the masses, whilst distracting them from this fact with talks about the collapse of social capital and welfare systems due to mass immigration. |
The elite also dangle the possiblity of being a millionaire in front of us, if only we "work hard", but it is actually very out of reach for most people. |
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