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Korean Air executive's "nut rage" delays flight 1
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/feature/2014/12/15/66/0900000000AEN20141215008200320F.html

Jitters about the heirs born with a silver spoon in their mouth are all the stronger in a country where the top 10 business groups account for over 80 percent of the gross domestic product.

Korea really needs to encourage more start-ups and protect them from being simply being bought up by the conglomerates. Just like how they protected the conglomerates from being bought by foreign multi-nationals in the past decades.

"Founders and their children have met people from various walks of life under tough conditions to build their companies, while the grandchildren raised in the greenhouse lack the ability to communicate and sympathize with people who come from different backgrounds."
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China is going to give Korea a rude awakening.
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It gets a little more interesting in terms of the corruption at the government level and how government bureaucrats have a cozy relationship with corporate elites.

It turns out that a Transportation Ministry official went to Korean Airlines and leaked the details of the government investigation into the matter.

Then, when the Ministry investigators went to the home of the crew member to interview him, they brought along the top Korean Airlines executive and even let him sit beside the flight attendant.

So now it looks like even people in the Transport Ministry will be facing charges in addition to the Korean Air executives for trying to cover it up and intimidate the crew member.

Can Koreans fugger this up any more than it already is?
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
It gets a little more interesting in terms of the corruption at the government level and how government bureaucrats have a cozy relationship with corporate elites.

It turns out that a Transportation Ministry official went to Korean Airlines and leaked the details of the government investigation into the matter.

Then, when the Ministry investigators went to the home of the crew member to interview him, they brought along the top Korean Airlines executive and even let him sit beside the flight attendant.

So now it looks like even people in the Transport Ministry will be facing charges in addition to the Korean Air executives for trying to cover it up and intimidate the crew member.

Can Koreans fugger this up any more than it already is?

Yes.

The cover ups, intimidation, bribes, double-crossing etc. will likely continue no matter which entity is involved. It's systemic.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
Shimokitazawa wrote:
It gets a little more interesting in terms of the corruption at the government level and how government bureaucrats have a cozy relationship with corporate elites.

It turns out that a Transportation Ministry official went to Korean Airlines and leaked the details of the government investigation into the matter.

Then, when the Ministry investigators went to the home of the crew member to interview him, they brought along the top Korean Airlines executive and even let him sit beside the flight attendant.

So now it looks like even people in the Transport Ministry will be facing charges in addition to the Korean Air executives for trying to cover it up and intimidate the crew member.

Can Koreans fugger this up any more than it already is?

Yes.

The cover ups, intimidation, bribes, double-crossing etc. will likely continue no matter which entity is involved. It's systemic.

At least in this case it was exposed. Hopefully in the future there will more cases where people are willing to expose stuff like this. It needs to be cleaned up. I just need to keep in mind that Korea's democracy is only like 25 years old, and not to expect the moon in change. But hey, it's Korea, and things here have changed fast, so just maybe...
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Smithington



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the latest news from the Korean peninsula. North Korea calls the African-American president of the United States "a monkey". Honestly, this place needs to get its PR shit together - north and south. No wonder "Korea" has a terrible brand image. No good news ever comes out of here. Honestly, when was the last time it made international news for something positive? The only thing I can think of is Kim Yuna, but even she became surrounded in scandal after firing her coach 'Korea style'.
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ex-Korean Air Exec Arrested Over Nut Rage

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/30/korean-air-arrested-nut_n_6398346.html

South Korean prosecutors have arrested a former Korean Air Lines Co. executive for allegedly endangering flight safety by delaying a plane because her macadamia nuts were not served the way she wanted, officials said Wednesday.

Prosecutors have yet to press criminal charges against Cho, but South Korean law allows authorities to arrest a suspect for up to six months over worries the person could flee or destroy evidence. Seoul Western District Court said such concerns were warranted.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The investigator of the case has also been arrested for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

The young sister (also an exec at KAL) of the disgraced exec. has tweeted to her: I will revenge for you!

She did not specify who the target of the revenge is. It is suspected:

1. The steward who didn't serve peanuts correctly to her 공주병 satisfaction.

2. ministry of transportation who didn't botch the investigation to her 공주병 satisfaction.

3. Anyone not up to her satisfaction of her 공주병 .

They know: everyone has their price and everyone eventually kneels before the power of money. $ Laughing $

Another Cho in the news. Cho EungChuen has been indicted for missing documents from the Blue House. How come nobody's asking: why does he look so much like the supposedly dead owner of Sewol ho, Yoo Byung Eun?
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
Still, if a peasant could become a millionaire overnight, this is probably how they'd act.

You can't buy class.


Another Korean first, the classless society.Very Happy


Pighting!
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yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: neither surprising nor unexpected ....

http://nypost.com/2015/01/30/flight-attendant-lied-about-in-air-nuts-incident/
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
It gets a little more interesting in terms of the corruption at the government level and how government bureaucrats have a cozy relationship with corporate elites.

It turns out that a Transportation Ministry official went to Korean Airlines and leaked the details of the government investigation into the matter.

Then, when the Ministry investigators went to the home of the crew member to interview him, they brought along the top Korean Airlines executive and even let him sit beside the flight attendant.

So now it looks like even people in the Transport Ministry will be facing charges in addition to the Korean Air executives for trying to cover it up and intimidate the crew member.

Can Koreans fugger this up any more than it already is?


Koreans are continually faced with shock realisations at how messed up their system is but nothing ever really changes because everyone just throws their hands in the air and accepts it.

They don't know any different. And they don't want to listen to outside advice. So they're basically doomed to live in this misery forever.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
Shimokitazawa wrote:
It gets a little more interesting in terms of the corruption at the government level and how government bureaucrats have a cozy relationship with corporate elites.

It turns out that a Transportation Ministry official went to Korean Airlines and leaked the details of the government investigation into the matter.

Then, when the Ministry investigators went to the home of the crew member to interview him, they brought along the top Korean Airlines executive and even let him sit beside the flight attendant.

So now it looks like even people in the Transport Ministry will be facing charges in addition to the Korean Air executives for trying to cover it up and intimidate the crew member.

Can Koreans fugger this up any more than it already is?


Koreans are continually faced with shock realisations at how messed up their system is but nothing ever really changes because everyone just throws their hands in the air and accepts it.

They don't know any different. And they don't want to listen to outside advice. So they're basically doomed to live in this misery forever.


Really? If you look at Korea in 1945, 1955, 1975, 1995, and 2015 you'd see drastic societal change. Yes, there'd be some commonalities, but a Korean from 1945 would be a total fish out of water, and not just because of the tech shock.

"Why hasn't Korea changed instantly and to my liking in all facets?"
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In light of nations that have struggles with seeing healthy change take place, what comes to mind is this book I recently finished reading called WHY NATIONS FAIL? I highly recommend it!
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The disgraced exec. has been sentence to 1 year of incaceration. It isn't much. Korean gaols are not Shawshank Redemption type of places, any more. Apparently the private settlement with the flight attendant was around $200,000. No words on cancellation of the revenge-thing though. So apparently it is still in motion, dormant it maybe. $ Laughing $
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ricochet



Joined: 04 Sep 2011
Location: carpetbagging...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, come on! Let her go free. In her world/ our world, she's done nothing nothing wrongly! Yeah, those peanuts are not enough to satisfy my appetite when on a plane like that too! Gully, gee whiz, you people are so savage and living in the past! All of you should be arrested or at the least warned for being human but not the fucking same as me! *beep* you! There's a difference between being innately affluent and vindictively peasant! She's been wronged! Evil or Very Mad

c'mon, no guilt in you? Be the first to stone me, strike me with your complacence and transparent self-righteousness! She's the victim of you and your imperialistically cultural western philosophy. (*beep* you.) Evil or Very Mad
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