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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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what ever we argue about here... doesnt change the fact of one thing!!
SEE YA IN 4 YEARS!!!!
HAHHAHAAHHAAHAHA!!!!! |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| "What's sure is that I never called him a terrorist: I am not cultured and I don't even know what an Islamic terrorist is. My sole terrorist is her...," added the 32-year-old, pointing at his sleeping 10-month-old daughter. |
This is the best quote I've ever read anywhere, ever. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
what ever we argue about here... doesnt change the fact of one thing!!
SEE YA IN 4 YEARS!!!!
HAHHAHAAHHAAHAHA!!!!! |
Damn good point maing...This is what it's all about!  |
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charlie_choppers
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:28 am Post subject: Azzurri = noble footballers... so noble |
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Provided this video is accurate, I'd say Zidane had just cause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhmN_cOnbmk&mode=related&search=
Whatever Materazzi said, it was probably very unpleasant for Zidane to have reacted the way he did. What a shame. Zizou was a football genius.
A sad end to what was a great World Cup. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| That's the whole point, there is no just cause for that action on an international sporting field. In a bar yes, but not on the sports field. He was simply outwitted in a psychological exchange which is part of sport. Headbutts are not part of the game... |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Zidane said on Wednesday that he was provoked by insults about his mother and sister, and the comments must have been deeply hurtful or vile, otherwise Zidane -- something of a hothead, true, but a veteran who has no doubt been the target of some nasty slurs in his time -- would not have snapped in such an important game. It may be, as some have suggested, that the Italians were working on Zidane verbally the entire game, a perfectly legal and common tactic, and Materazzi's words were just the last straw. |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/phil_taylor/07/12/zidane/index.html |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Zidane said on Wednesday that he was provoked by insults about his mother and sister, and the comments must have been deeply hurtful or vile, otherwise Zidane -- something of a hothead, true, but a veteran who has no doubt been the target of some nasty slurs in his time -- would not have snapped in such an important game. It may be, as some have suggested, that the Italians were working on Zidane verbally the entire game, a perfectly legal and common tactic, and Materazzi's words were just the last straw. |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/phil_taylor/07/12/zidane/index.html |
Meaning a dirty tactic commonly used by dirty players because they can get away with it. Just because it isn't illegal doesn't make it right. |
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charlie_choppers
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| That's the whole point, there is no just cause for that action on an international sporting field. In a bar yes, but not on the sports field. He was simply outwitted in a psychological exchange which is part of sport. Headbutts are not part of the game... |
Satori: let me first say that I'm neither French nor Italian, so I really don't have a big emotional investment in either team winning. I also agree with you on the point that some players engage in trash-talk to try to unhinge the opposition. That's ok. I'm sure Zidane has been exposed to that on a weekly basis and he deals with it. However, there has to be a line over which players do not cross simply for the sake of human decency.
If what the press is saying is correct, Materazzi called Zidane a terrorist then insulted his sister and his ailing mother. What kind of sick person says things like that? It's on par with someone using the "n" word in the NBA (or anywhere!). Nobody is going to let that fly. Nobody.
This must be doubly true in Italy, a country where mothers are truely revered. Satori, honestly, let's say your mom was in hospital and you were playing a high pressure football match and someone from the opposition tweaks your nipple, uses a racial slur against you, then, to top it off, insults your sick mother. Would you be ok with that? Perhaps you are more thick-skinned than I am, but when it comes to my mom -- sick or otherwise -- I go off the handle.
This incident has tainted the final. Read the news. More people are talking about the headbutt and who said what to whom than they are about Italy's vicory.
It's never going to happen, but I wish players would stop diving and insulting each other and try to win the old fashioned way: through superior skill.
By the way, the Azzurri played some very pretty and fluid football this WC. I'm a big fan of Cannavaro and Pirlo. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Materazzi said he did not talk about his mother!
so what was said on the pitch will stay on the pitch...
zidane could be making this up for all we know..
or materazzi might be lying!! what ever the case!!
EVERY SPORT in the world the players insult each other..
baseball, the catcher ALWAYS speaks insults to the batter.. either you turn around and smash him in the head and get fined and banned from sports! or you ignore him and try to hit the ball!!
basketball!! im sure many brothers are insulting each others momma everyday on the court to get a rise out of someone!!
ICE hockey! hahaaha I think insults and then fights are part of the game!!
you name the sport there are insults exchange! IM SURE ZIDANE
has slurred his fair share of them too!! he even curses his own team!
and if anyone was actually watching the game!! did you see when the french coach touched his arm and tried to talk to him.. zindane looked at him with this dirty arrogant look and ripped his arm away and stared at him and walked off... the coach just walked away, hoping the cameras didnt catch it.. and this was way before materazzi said anything..
zidane is trying to say he was provoked , WHATEVER!!
so when he stomped on the saudi abrabian in 98 he was provoked too so that makes it alright, becuase the saudi said, something about his mother
sounds like zidane is a cry baby, he can dish it out..
but he cant take it..
still Zidane, he is an awesome player!! and I always liked him.. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| if it was racist then Italy must be stripped of the title. |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Can't believe that Zidane was awarded the best player trophy....what a joke.Goes septic in the final and gets sent-off.What a jip.Cannavaro was the best player.Easily.Why is an Albanian outboard motored people smuggler given the top player award??Sentimental tripe.
I've said it before.FIFA is nothing but a mini-papacy,content only with spreading its word across the world. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| if it was racist then Italy must be stripped of the title. |
does it come natural to you or do you work at being stupid?
so ITALY wins the game by putting more goals in the net.. BEATS THEM!
and becuase a player from the italian team might have called zidane an african terrorists.. gets the worldcup trophy taken off them, and then given to france???? EVEN THOUGH THEY LOST???? HELLO!!!
OHH MUMMY he called me a WOP!!
he what.,. ok thats it.. give back that trophy , but we won 5.0
doesnt matter.. you called him a WOP. they are the real champions of the world..
MATE you think diving is a problem in football wait till teams get a smell of this new rule.. they wont even play a game.. they will just call the racist card on every game..
ronaldo called me a N****R ..
FIGO called me a wetback round 16
KLOSE called me Kunta Kinte quarter finals
rooney called me a N*****R-- semis
crespo called me a N*****R
thats it, argentina lose, AFRICA goes into the final
BUT BUT, we were winning 6.0!!! NO I dont care there will be none of that talk here...
final.. Africa vs Italy..
its 1:1 the italians say HEY he called me a WOP!!!
the africans HEY they called us MIDNIGHT
FIFA: ok penalty kicks..
italy winning 5:4 african says.. HEY the italian goaly said excuse me can you turn on the lights I cant see the striker..
OK THATS IT!! AFRICA WINS! THE WORLDCUP!!
DREAM ON!!!! |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| True, there are insults thrown around in every sport. But, I think professional sports draw the line when it comes to racist stuff being thrown around. If it can be proven, I would imagine that they would/should come down somewhat on Matzarattatoniario. But, award the game to France? Whoever said that is reeeeeeeaaaallly out to lunch. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| rothkowitz wrote: |
Can't believe that Zidane was awarded the best player trophy....what a joke.Goes septic in the final and gets sent-off.What a jip.Cannavaro was the best player.Easily.Why is an Albanian outboard motored people smuggler given the top player award??Sentimental tripe.
I've said it before.FIFA is nothing but a mini-papacy,content only with spreading its word across the world. |
There's a lot of examples of ignorant tripe being posted on this thread and this is a fine specimen. Albanian?! You don't know how funny you are.
I hope Zidane retains his Best Player Award - and of course no-one's going to contemplate stripping Italy of the World Cup. |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Shoud Zidane be stripped of the award? No, because the journalists voted before half time of the final game.
Should FIFA punish him for his actions? Yes, but stripping him of the award is wrong. The problem FIFA has is that Zidane is no longer playing football, so it feels that the only punishment is to strip him of the award.
Is there another form of punishment? Yes. Fine him for his actions and let it be known that if he had nor retired he would not only be fined, but also not allowed to play x amount of games.
This would then send a message to other players not to try the same thing as Zidane. |
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