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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
12ax7 wrote:
radcon wrote:
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Not strategically important in the Korean War? Are you out of your mind?

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.


Do you know the difference between the words "important" and "decisive"?

You seem to think I am somehow saying Canada did nothing in the war. I am only taking issue with your assertion that but for Canada being involved, the Korean War would have had a significantly different result. You claimed that we wouldn't be here in Korea if not for Canada. That is a massive claim that I'm not convinced is born out by the facts.

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And, really, are you sure that Canada is a non-nuclear country? Only if you forget the history of the atom bomb, the Cold War, NORAD, and NATO.

Just have a read. It's getting too late for me to bother.


Please show me the nuclear arms that Canada possesses.


Read up on the two battles I mentioned, particularly the Battle of Gapyeong (Kapyong). Had Kapyong fallen, Seoul would have been taken by the Chinese and the First Chinese Spring Offensive would have been a success. As a result, they essentially prevented a nuclear war on the Korean peninsula. Like I said, it's an historical fact. Deny it all you want, it only makes you sound ignorant.


And you know for 100% certainty sitting at your computer in 2013, that Harry Truman would have nuked the Korean Peninsula? Wow. I think you missed your true calling.



You almost make it sound as if Harry Truman was 100% opposed to the use of nuclear bombs in the Korean War.

He most certainly considered it, and so did other American politicians.

Al Gore Sr. proposed to the US Congress in April of 1951 that "something cataclysmic" should be done to end the Korean War just a few short days before the two battles I mention.

A few weeks earlier, in March, when a large movement of Chinese soldiers was noticed, the atomic bomb loading pits at Kadena Air Base in Japan were rendered operational, with the bombs assembled, lacking only the nuclear core.

They again considered using nuclear weapons in June of 1951.


I never said nor implied that Truman was unwilling to use nukes. I was only refuting your post that said if not for the Canadians at Kapyong, the use of nukes was a done deal. No way to know that either way.


They were planning to use them if the Chinese took Seoul, which the Australians, Canadian, New Zealanders, Brits and Americans prevented at Kapyong. Operation Killer and Ripper would have essentially failed. If you can't grasp the magnitude of this, then I'm wasting my time.
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