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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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 Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
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| atwood wrote: |
Jumping to the conclusion that something is unhealthy just because it's new... |
Perhaps you have heard about evolution; animals are adapted to old things, not new things, that's how time works. It doesn't necessarily mean that the new thing is unhealthy though...
...obviously we aren't all idiots Atwood. Please stop projecting on us.  |
So you're agreeing with me that you were jumping to a conclusion... |
Dearest Atwood, I said "I wonder if...".
It's not an argument, that's what you make everything into... |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
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| atwood wrote: |
Jumping to the conclusion that something is unhealthy just because it's new... |
Perhaps you have heard about evolution; animals are adapted to old things, not new things, that's how time works. It doesn't necessarily mean that the new thing is unhealthy though...
...obviously we aren't all idiots Atwood. Please stop projecting on us. |
So you're agreeing with me that you were jumping to a conclusion... |
Dearest Atwood, I said "I wonder if...".
It's not an argument, that's what you make everything into... |
So you qualified it; you still jumped, but with a parachute.
And how many times and with how many posters are you going to use that response about making everything into an argument?
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| And how many times and with how many posters are you going to use that response about making everything into an argument? |
As many times as relevant, essentially infinite.
Shocking that you are still arguing about nothing with yourself. You guys seem to be obsessed with arguing, even more than most Westerners! Is this an English teacher thing? Words and such? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, a "good chunk" - meaning, a decent amount. A sizable amount. A respectable percentage.
My point being, there have been polls on this in the past on this forum, and many ppl from "the west" took off their shoes back home. I'm trying to recall exactly there results, but it was something like most canadians and brits, and a minority of americans. I'm not sure the actual percentages matter, but rather that Smithington's reasoning seemed to neglect that portion. |
IMO it's really stretching things to consider a poll on this forum a valid measuring stick. There's just too few posters and it's a group that as expatriates might be hard to call average in many respects.
I really don't have a dog in the shoe fight either way, although I will say it can be a real PITA at times and that I rarely feel comfortable bending over with people standing right behind me.
Maybe some on this board welcome that experience.  |
No dog in the fight either - don't care what you do in your home. Just saying it is VERY common in Canada. Hear it's also the same in NZ. I think it's more region dependent in the US. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
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Sorry, a "good chunk" - meaning, a decent amount. A sizable amount. A respectable percentage.
My point being, there have been polls on this in the past on this forum, and many ppl from "the west" took off their shoes back home. I'm trying to recall exactly there results, but it was something like most canadians and brits, and a minority of americans. I'm not sure the actual percentages matter, but rather that Smithington's reasoning seemed to neglect that portion. |
IMO it's really stretching things to consider a poll on this forum a valid measuring stick. There's just too few posters and it's a group that as expatriates might be hard to call average in many respects.
I really don't have a dog in the shoe fight either way, although I will say it can be a real PITA at times and that I rarely feel comfortable bending over with people standing right behind me.
Maybe some on this board welcome that experience. |
No dog in the fight either - don't care what you do in your home. Just saying it is VERY common in Canada. Hear it's also the same in NZ. I think it's more region dependent in the US. |
I would think anyplace there's lots of snow, such as parts of Canada, people take off their shoes before tracking in melting snow and ice. It's just common sense. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| And how many times and with how many posters are you going to use that response about making everything into an argument? |
As many times as relevant, essentially infinite.
Shocking that you are still arguing about nothing with yourself. You guys seem to be obsessed with arguing, even more than most Westerners! Is this an English teacher thing? Words and such? |
It's my considered observation that it's you that's arguing about nothing, likely in an effort to cover your tracks. But feel free to troll on, an activity that is, as you say, "essentially infinite." |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| It's my considered observation that it's you that's arguing... |
Coming from the undisputed master of internet "straw man", so that you can create an argument where none exists. |
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Shimokitazawa
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| What can be more rude than going into someone else's territory and property and declaring it yours to do with as you please? |
We can only be grateful Koreans lacked the military organisational skills to invade other countries, because their group instinct to swarm, invade and conquer everything makes a colony of army ants look tame. |
Senior Korean 1: "Ok, who's got the map for conquering this place."
Junior Korean 1: "You're the senior. We thought you were going to use your experience and lead us?"
Senior Korean 1: "No, I merely said "Let's go conquer this place," you were to mind read my attentions and provide the map yourselves."
Junior Korean 1: "But you never explicitly said "Someone bring the map""
Senior Korean 1: "I'm the senior so I merely tell you what to do but not how to do it."
Junior Korean 1: "So, we've arrived to conquer this land but have no maps. I guess we have enough food to last us for a few weeks?"
Senior Korean 1: "What food?" |
Come on now, enough's enough! What you have just written is ludicrous! Every one knows that Koreans dont go anywhere with out a huge 10kg box of cup noodles...  |
Now that was funny.
I have memories backpacking around Australia a few years ago and staying in hostels. The Koreans travelled in groups and at night they would sit down at one of the big tables in the kitchen and eat instant ramen from a big pot in the center of the table.
I thought it was hilarious because of the wonderful international food opportunities in Sydney, Melbourne, etc. Yet, they chose to eat instant ramen.
You see it in places like Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok and even Phuket, the Koreans want to eat Korean.
However, the same can be said for the Chinese, also. When they get to Germany, the tourist guides look for the nearest Chinese restaurant. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
I have memories backpacking around Australia a few years ago and staying in hostels. The Koreans travelled in groups and at night they would sit down at one of the big tables in the kitchen and eat instant ramen from a big pot in the center of the table.
I thought it was hilarious because of the wonderful international food opportunities in Sydney, Melbourne, etc. Yet, they chose to eat instant ramen.
You see it in places like Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok and even Phuket, the Koreans want to eat Korean.
However, the same can be said for the Chinese, also. When they get to Germany, the tourist guides look for the nearest Chinese restaurant. |
A lot like all those breakfast places full of western backpackers eating bacon, and eggs.
I think soju, and instant noodle thing, is just Koreans being cheap. You can feed 10 Koreans for $2 with all those packs of ramien.
Personally I don't care what people eat. Just as long as they don't budge in line at the bus station. |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:39 am Post subject: |
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By reviving this thread, youve revived the spirit of kimchininja.
I hope youre pleased with yourself...  |
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UseAsDirected
Joined: 12 Dec 2009
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Yes! Yes! Yes! Exactly! Hammer contacts nail!
I got into a heated discussion with a few Korean coworkers about something related -- about nebulous, context-dependent-behavior. I said, in my village, if you are nice, you should be nice to everyone no matter to who. But in Korea, niceness depends on whom one is speaking, and I think it is wrong, smacks acceptable tastes, and is two-faced. They hated that I used the term, two-faced. Anyway, such a double standard can severely deform people's perceptions of that person when they don't know the baseline behavior. I still think it is wrong, smacks acceptable tastes, and is two-faced.
The president of the World Bank has a good line: people are like wheat; as they age, the wheat bows ever over (i.e. shows more humility). Some I met, especially the older types, manipulated this with impunity or ignored it.
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Koreans are excessively considerate and generous to the point of neurosis and smothering if they feel affinity to you.
If youre just another rat out there in the rat race they can be shockingly indifferent.
I also feel that sometimes people feel overly entitled to kindness and politeness. Some if it is reasonable entitlement. Some of it comes across as spoiled. |
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