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CabbageTownRoyals
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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| To update: I have a follow-up interview now with the first Korean website to publish the story ('ohmynews') so that will come out tomorrow. They said many Korean netizens were wanting to know how a foreigner came to take the photos...why it wasn't a Korean etc etc. They will probably want to get into more cultural issues/foreign perspective etc. |
You might take the opportunity to note that part of the reason many Korean netizens may want to know that is because of the unending sensationalist diet of anti-foreigner diatribe fed them by the Korean press. To which your actions provide a very realistic and refreshing balance.
Or, you might not. |
Yes, I would like to mention how many foreigners feel that we are unfairly portrayed in the Korean media. Yes, there have been some unpleasant incidents here, but we are too often 'categorized' as drunks/drug-takers or even ironically, child abusers. That one pedophile case last year has effectively pigeon-holed many English teachers (men) unjustly... if it comes up, I will try and tactfully expand on that issue... |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| To update: I have a follow-up interview now with the first Korean website to publish the story ('ohmynews') so that will come out tomorrow. They said many Korean netizens were wanting to know how a foreigner came to take the photos...why it wasn't a Korean etc etc. They will probably want to get into more cultural issues/foreign perspective etc. |
Congrats, and good job to all involved.
My coworkers were discussing this at lunch yesterday. They were all very happy that the kindergarten had been caught, and said "foreigner this and that" positively.
If Netizens wants to know why a Korean didn't take the photos...well, Koreans are into face saving and abuse is considered a private matter.
But probably the only way YOU could answer that question is to say, "I'm not sure. I think Koreans need to ask themselves that question..." |
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Down-Under
Joined: 24 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Good on you OP. You did something about it... |
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CabbageTownRoyals
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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finished a very, very good, in-depth interview with 'Ohmynews'
They were extremely professional and really good guys. Asked a lot of questions about cultural issues and seemed interested in the media's (mis) representation of foreigners in Korea...they explored that in depth so will be interesting to see what comes of that tomorrow. They basically said that this kind of issue will be able to help change the negative stereotypes of foreigners here...fingers crossed. |
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maeil
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Haebangchon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Three cheers, CTR.
Maybe you'll hit two birds with this one. Improve the lot of small children and grown foreigners at the same time.  |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| CabbageTownRoyals wrote: |
| dogbert wrote: |
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| To update: I have a follow-up interview now with the first Korean website to publish the story ('ohmynews') so that will come out tomorrow. They said many Korean netizens were wanting to know how a foreigner came to take the photos...why it wasn't a Korean etc etc. They will probably want to get into more cultural issues/foreign perspective etc. |
You might take the opportunity to note that part of the reason many Korean netizens may want to know that is because of the unending sensationalist diet of anti-foreigner diatribe fed them by the Korean press. To which your actions provide a very realistic and refreshing balance.
Or, you might not. |
Yes, I would like to mention how many foreigners feel that we are unfairly portrayed in the Korean media. Yes, there have been some unpleasant incidents here, but we are too often 'categorized' as drunks/drug-takers or even ironically, child abusers. That one pedophile case last year has effectively pigeon-holed many English teachers (men) unjustly... if it comes up, I will try and tactfully expand on that issue... |
Thanks, that is really great and I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it. I saw you (the non-blurry part, anyway) on the initial SBS report and thought you handled it fantastically. |
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CabbageTownRoyals
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
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| CabbageTownRoyals wrote: |
| To update: I have a follow-up interview now with the first Korean website to publish the story ('ohmynews') so that will come out tomorrow. They said many Korean netizens were wanting to know how a foreigner came to take the photos...why it wasn't a Korean etc etc. They will probably want to get into more cultural issues/foreign perspective etc. |
You might take the opportunity to note that part of the reason many Korean netizens may want to know that is because of the unending sensationalist diet of anti-foreigner diatribe fed them by the Korean press. To which your actions provide a very realistic and refreshing balance.
Or, you might not. |
Yes, I would like to mention how many foreigners feel that we are unfairly portrayed in the Korean media. Yes, there have been some unpleasant incidents here, but we are too often 'categorized' as drunks/drug-takers or even ironically, child abusers. That one pedophile case last year has effectively pigeon-holed many English teachers (men) unjustly... if it comes up, I will try and tactfully expand on that issue... |
Thanks, that is really great and I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it. I saw you (the non-blurry part, anyway) on the initial SBS report and thought you handled it fantastically. |
Thanks. I'm really amazed at how supportive complete strangers have been. Of course its nothing to do with me as an individual, and anyone Im sure would have done the same thing in this situation, its just nice to know that a lot of you really care about this cause. So, thanks to all those people who sent me PM's of support...The week has been a little stressful and I really appreciate everyone's kind words... |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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Actually, "CabbageTownRoyals" is also well known for her work for her concern for the plight of animals, and she has done some animal rescue work in Korea.
She has also attended "Seoul Vegetarian Club" meetings in the past - hopefully she can make it to the February 16 meeting that will try to help out a shelter facing a deadline:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=101200&start=60
Maybe she'll sign autographs!  |
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Froggy Parker
Joined: 21 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Ok,
This thread was cleaned up to remove some of the posts made by some users that simply aimed at insulting others or derailing the thread.
Leave the flaming out of this thread please. Shame on those few posters who posted messages insulting others or using this sad event to make some pathetic little point against other users.
I also want to say to the people involved here that you did amazing work. I applaud your efforts here as does my wife (she is Korean and she cried when she first saw the pics and heard more of the story). As a father, I can only voice my unequivocal support of the intiatives taken in here.
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Well done, Homer. |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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데이브 ESL 카페를 보면 그동안 아동성추행, 마약 범죄 등에 연루된 외국인 때문에 한국내 여론이 좋지 않았는데 당신의 이번 신고로 여론이 좋아지지 않을까 기대하는 댓글도 있더라.
"그런 면이 있다. 외국인 남성들의 경우 이번 일로 주한 외국인에 대한 부정적 여론이 개선되기를 기대하고 있다.
특히 아동학대 문제로 주한 외국인에 부정적 여론이 생겼는데, 바로 또다른 아동학대 사건 때문에 여론이 호의적으로 변하게 된 상황은 아이러니다. 만약 내가 남자였다면 주한 외국인 남성에 대한 편견이 해소되는 데 도움이 되었을 것이라는 아쉬움 섞인 지적도 있었다."
- 당신이 외국인이라는 사실, 그리고 소통의 어려움 때문에 이런 상황에서 어려움이 더 심하다고 보는가?
"한국인이 외국인의 시각에 매우 민감한 것을 감안하면 한국 내 상황을 가끔 이해하기 어려울 때가 있다. 조승희 사건 당시도 그랬지만 섣불리 특정 국가에 대해 편견을 갖는 것은 위험한 일이다." |
anyone wanna translate this part? |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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데이브 ESL 카페를 보면....
anyone wanna translate this part? |
You rang?
http://koreabeat.com/?p=719 |
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CabbageTownRoyals
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Hater Depot"]
OK, the Korean interviewer has reworded this somewhat, obviously they are not my direct-words. The interview has been simplified, but the points are the same... |
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tzechuk
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Just thought you'd like to know that this has become international news. It was in the newspaper here in Hong Kong yesterday. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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This part of the interview is interesting:
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[Interviewer:] If you look at Dave�s ESL Cafe there are some foreigners involved in child sexual abuse and drug crimes and so on so the Korean media doesn�t like it, but you hope that this will cause the media to change for the better.
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What the hell is that about? Is it suggesting that just by looking at threads here, we can see evidence of foreigners ' wrong-doing? Was this mis-translated? Hater Depot, any clarifications here?
While I applaud the follow-up piece by Oknews, this "question" is perpetuating the evil-foreigner views... |
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