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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| And if some people find something that you do that is illegal, are they justified to whack you with an umbrella or fling a coin at you? Are you going to stoically accept your punishment ala Thoreau or Gandhi or are you going to rant and rave about the tyranny of the Korean justice system. |
Another false analogy. There's a big difference between smacking a car with an umbrella and physically assaulting an individual. Noone here is advocating violence against the motorist's person. So congrats on yet another strawman. But if I ever engage in criminal activity that endangers your life feel free to throw a coin at me. I promise not to call the cops. |
A car is genuinely seen as an extension of a person's body when they are inside it to a degree. Same with a person's home. You can't just menacingly stand in front of someone's car and kick their tires. Even if you aren't doing any damage, you are still threatening them.
No but if you do whip a coin and it hits my head or cracks my glasses are you prepared to make recompense? You may be, but what if the next guy decides to flee the scene just like your driver. Any sympathy I may have had for his frustration flys out the window when his missed coin hits me or my family or friends. And sooner or later that WILL happen. And if people do it en masse, many will switch to heavier objects and people WILL brawl over it. What? Do you think you'll get some kind of medal out of this and an award from City Hall? No! People will look at you the way they do those Russians who brawl- Like you're a complete sociopath.
What are cops supposed to do when summoned?
"This guy almost hit me" "No I didn't." Facts in dispute.
"I threw a coin at this guy" "This guy threw a coin at me" Facts not in dispute. Clearly an offense.
"Because this guy threw a coin at me, I threw a punch at him" "After that, he threw a punch at me" Facts not in dispute, clearly the person who threw the coin is at fault.
How do you expect cops to resolve such an issue? Who do you think is going to be blamed? Who can you blame BUT the person who threw the coin if the rest is my word vs. his word?
If you want to be a cop and keep traffic order, go be a cop and keep traffic order. Or put on your vest and Wolverine umbrella whacker and Spider Man coin shooter. Otherwise, form a civic group and petition for public safety and greater police involvement the way normal, sane people do. |
That's a complete falsification. You're a bald-faced liar, and it's time the moderators banned you. |
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mayorhaggar
Joined: 01 Jan 2013
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
That's a complete falsification. You're a bald-faced liar, and it's time the moderators banned you. |
So, if someone stands in front of your car and kicks it or strikes it aggressively, this is not threatening you with bodily harm, coupled with the capability to deliver that? A car is at times seen as an extension of one's body, similar to the castle doctrine and your home. Now, I might have been off on the terminology, but that was my point.
And I believe that advocating illegal activity in Korea is an offense here, so please, let's keep things reasonable and carry on. You're taking this way too personally. Have a chuckle.
So, have you all formed your Umbrella and Coin Justice League yet? Mapped out any hotspot intersections? |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| What a dumb argument. Of course it's wrong to throw coins or kick a car because it ran a red light. I understand why someone might be compelled to do it, I've done it myself here and back home, but it's still wrong. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
That's a complete falsification. You're a bald-faced liar, and it's time the moderators banned you. |
So, if someone stands in front of your car and kicks it or strikes it aggressively, this is not threatening you with bodily harm, coupled with the capability to deliver that? A car is at times seen as an extension of one's body, similar to the castle doctrine and your home. Now, I might have been off on the terminology, but that was my point.
And I believe that advocating illegal activity in Korea is an offense here, so please, let's keep things reasonable and carry on. You're taking this way too personally. Have a chuckle.
So, have you all formed your Umbrella and Coin Justice League yet? Mapped out any hotspot intersections? |
More silly questions I see, rabbit. You put it forward as legal fact and hence lied. Backtracking now doesn't change that.
No chuckles when the clown aint' funny. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
That's a complete falsification. You're a bald-faced liar, and it's time the moderators banned you. |
So, if someone stands in front of your car and kicks it or strikes it aggressively, this is not threatening you with bodily harm, coupled with the capability to deliver that? A car is at times seen as an extension of one's body, similar to the castle doctrine and your home. Now, I might have been off on the terminology, but that was my point.
And I believe that advocating illegal activity in Korea is an offense here, so please, let's keep things reasonable and carry on. You're taking this way too personally. Have a chuckle.
So, have you all formed your Umbrella and Coin Justice League yet? Mapped out any hotspot intersections? |
More silly questions I see, rabbit. You put it forward as legal fact and hence lied. Backtracking now doesn't change that.
No chuckles when the clown aint' funny. |
What backtrack? Because it might be criminal mischief instead of possibly assault (although in many cases it still would be)? It's still illegal, and it is still not the way to resolve the situation either personally or socially.
If your idea was so virtuous and within the law, then there should be no hesitation for you to don your uniforms and dispense umbrella whackings and coin flingings. But you don't and you won't. That says all we need to know about the legality and effectiveness of such an idea. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
That's a complete falsification. You're a bald-faced liar, and it's time the moderators banned you. |
So, if someone stands in front of your car and kicks it or strikes it aggressively, this is not threatening you with bodily harm, coupled with the capability to deliver that? A car is at times seen as an extension of one's body, similar to the castle doctrine and your home. Now, I might have been off on the terminology, but that was my point.
And I believe that advocating illegal activity in Korea is an offense here, so please, let's keep things reasonable and carry on. You're taking this way too personally. Have a chuckle.
So, have you all formed your Umbrella and Coin Justice League yet? Mapped out any hotspot intersections? |
More silly questions I see, rabbit. You put it forward as legal fact and hence lied. Backtracking now doesn't change that.
No chuckles when the clown aint' funny. |
What backtrack? Because it might be criminal mischief instead of possibly assault (although in many cases it still would be)? It's still illegal, and it is still not the way to resolve the situation either personally or socially.
If your idea was so virtuous and within the law, then there should be no hesitation for you to don your uniforms and dispense umbrella whackings and coin flingings. But you don't and you won't. That says all we need to know about the legality and effectiveness of such an idea. |
More crapola from shite for brains.
It's not illegal. That's another lie. You are one lying sack of shite.
And that's all we need to know.
Say goodnight dick. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
More crapola from shite for brains.
It's not illegal. That's another lie. You are one lying sack of shite.
And that's all we need to know.
Say goodnight dick. |
Striking people's vehicles is not illegal?
So you can just walk down a row of parked cars and start kicking them or throwing coins at them and its all good as long as you don't damage them? |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
More crapola from shite for brains.
It's not illegal. That's another lie. You are one lying sack of shite.
And that's all we need to know.
Say goodnight dick. |
Striking people's vehicles is not illegal?
So you can just walk down a row of parked cars and start kicking them and its all good as long as you don't damage them? |
Listen clown. You're the one lying.
You're the one who should be answering questions rather than asking them.
Got it pizza boy? Extra cheese and hold the lies. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| atwood wrote: |
More crapola from shite for brains.
It's not illegal. That's another lie. You are one lying sack of shite.
And that's all we need to know.
Say goodnight dick. |
Striking people's vehicles is not illegal?
So you can just walk down a row of parked cars and start kicking them and its all good as long as you don't damage them? |
Listen clown. You're the one lying.
You're the one who should be answering questions rather than asking them.
Got it pizza boy? Extra cheese and hold the lies. |
What questions- Is hitting someone's vehicle potentially assault? I'd say yes. Can the vehicle be seen as extension of one's person? I'd say yes.
Answered.
Now you answer- Is this the best way to handle the situation? Is striking someone's vehicle illegal? Would it be legal for you to walk around and hit people's vehicles and throw coins at them, even if there was no damage. YES OR NO?
Dude who slung pizzas in college is working the same job as you, so I don't know where the attitude is coming from. Seriously? You're trying to win this argument by going after my job in college that I did to pay rent? Man your case must be weak. Don't see me doing any of that. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Wow still going on. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Couple months ago outside my apt, at 11pm I was walking my dog and this strange looking Korean guy walked by and started kicking the door of every single parked car. Twenty or so cars. This other guy was coming out of his apt and saw him kick his car, but he didn't say anything. His car was really old though, probably not worth getting in to a fight. Something was definitely off about the guy. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Couple months ago outside my apt, at 11pm I was walking my dog and this strange looking Korean guy walked by and started kicking the door of every single parked car. Twenty or so cars. This other guy was coming out of his apt and saw him kick his car, but he didn't say anything. His car was really old though, probably not worth getting in to a fight. Something was definitely off about the guy. |
So, would that then be 20 counts of assault?  |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Could definitely fall under 치안 문란 행위.
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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He's a shameless hypocrite. If you pop over to the thread about the sex offender who was just "trying to urinate" he advocates "community justice" against the perp. He even endorses "tarring and feathering" those suspected of child abuse. Violent, illegal vigilantism if I've ever heard it. Yet he has the gall to lecture people about slapping the side of a car that almost ran some kid down.
Shameless hypocrite. |
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