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normalcyispasse

Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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4.0 scale.
12.3 gpa.
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aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Location: Daegu-ish
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Heh I think I had like a 3.1 / 4 average. B's are good enough for me!
Played a hell of a lot of World of Warcraft and D&D at univeristy  |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it seems like the people who are most successful -- I mean if you're measuring success in terms of making money -- are NOT necessarily the ones who got good grades. They're the ones who are ambitious and really want to be successful. Often it seem that people who are more intellectual know too much for their own good?
I have to say that if someone makes a poll for, "how lazy are you one a scale from 1-10, 1 being completely lazy and 10 being completely ambitious", I'd have to give myself a 2 or 3. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it seems like the people who are most successful -- I mean if you're measuring success in terms of making money -- are NOT necessarily the ones who got good grades. They're the ones who are ambitious and really want to be successful. Often it seem that people who are more intellectual know too much for their own good?
I have to say that if someone makes a poll for, "how lazy are you one a scale from 1-10, 1 being completely lazy and 10 being completely ambitious", I'd have to give myself a 2 or 3. |
You lazy ass!! I'm more like a 3 or 4. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Location: Nearly in NK
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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The son of a friend of mine in Canada, finished 3 years of a biology/chemistry with a 9.0 (same as 4.0 in the US). He was admitted to UofAlberta med school on that basis.
Nobody should be allowed to be that bright.
While a med student, he was the student representative on the admissions committee. |
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bosintang

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Do grades really matter?
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..there are innumerable examples of poor students who changed the world -- or made a pile of money. Winston Churchill was famously at the bottom of his class at Harrow, the exclusive English private school. Richard Branson left high school to run a newspaper he founded. Senator John McCain graduated 894th out of 899 in his class at the U.S. Naval Academy. President George W. Bush was a solid C student in his first year at Yale but showed early promise as a politician because he could remember the names of each of the 54 pledges in his fraternity.
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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WHile a generalization (as there are some really hard and good arts degrees out there), you have to remember a 3.5 on a 4.0 scale for a general arts degree takes about the equivalent intelligence and work as a 2.0 for a real degree (like engineering, physics, law, etc) in my opinion at least. You have to take out the degrees that people go into cause they couldn't get into anything else (or failed into them).
Just in case, I had a high GPA. |
I had a 2.95 GPA with a business degree and a minor in computer science. In about 6 of my classes only 3 percent of the students passed the classes the first time around.
I actually had two classes where one guy got a B and I got a C. But the rest of the class of about 30 students got D's and F's. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| We don't do GPA in Britain and I also have no idea what percentile I'm in, Pest2, but I did once get my degree evaluated into its US equivalent scores (by the World Education Services) and my GPA was 3.5 |
wow, I did not know that. How do they measure academic performance in Britain, then? |
Degree classification:
An Honours degree is always awarded in one of four classes depending upon the marks gained in the final assessments and examinations. The top students are awarded a first class degree, the next best, an upper second class degree (usually referred to as a 2:1), the next a lower second class degree (usually referred to as a 2:2), and those with the lowest marks gain a third class degree. An Ordinary or unclassified degree (which does not give the graduate the right to add '(Hons)') may be awarded if a student has completed the full honours degree course but hasn't obtained the total required passes sufficient to merit a third-class honours degree. Alternatively a degree may be denied honours if the student has had to retake courses.
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In American terms, I think GPA of 3.5 to 4 would be a First Class Honors degree in the UK ("a first"), 3 to 3.5 a 2:1 ("two-one") and less than 3.0 a 2:2 ("two-two") and below.
Because a degree has nowhere its previous value, only 2:1s and Firsts are considered for graduate study and other competitive things.
43.4% of 2006 graduates who gained a 2.1 - this was the most common degree classification
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sirfro

Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Location: Guui-dong...lol
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Do grades really matter? |
I don't think they do. It's very possible to get a high GPA without actually learning anything that you'll need to apply to a job. I felt a lot better about school and the classes I took once I started caring about what I was learning instead of the mark I could manage. |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| We have a 7-point system in Australia, with 7 being the highest. Undergrad I scored 6.15, current postgrad I am sitting on 6. |
Do we? |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Well, it seems like the people who are most successful -- I mean if you're measuring success in terms of making money -- are NOT necessarily the ones who got good grades. They're the ones who are ambitious and really want to be successful. Often it seem that people who are more intellectual know too much for their own good?
I have to say that if someone makes a poll for, "how lazy are you one a scale from 1-10, 1 being completely lazy and 10 being completely ambitious", I'd have to give myself a 2 or 3. |
You lazy ass!! I'm more like a 3 or 4. |
Hey, I'm trying to change.. I just took out the garbage. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: |
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I had a 3.46 on a 4.33 scale. Could've been better, but I failed three courses one semester because I was sick and didn't go to class once.
Erm, as an aside, GPA means absolutely nothing besides how well you can manage your time. Some of the smartest people I know failed out of university, because well, intelligence and punctuality/work ethic are hardly one and the same, and some real morons with a great work ethic are working on their MAs now.
Anyway, if this is meant to be some kind of intelligence pissing contest, it fails. A better contest would be giving us some string, a loaf of bread, dropping us on a desert island and instructing us to live off the land for a month or two and come back fatter than before. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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So all those 25 people who voted top 20%, what the hell are they doing teaching English in Korea? They're there for the 'experience'. Yeah, whatever... |
High grades are useless here unless you want to get into grad school. When it comes to looking for a job, a degree is a degree. |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| We don't do GPA in Britain and I also have no idea what percentile I'm in, Pest2, but I did once get my degree evaluated into its US equivalent scores (by the World Education Services) and my GPA was 3.5 |
wow, I did not know that. How do they measure academic performance in Britain, then? |
Degree classification:
An Honours degree is always awarded in one of four classes depending upon the marks gained in the final assessments and examinations. The top students are awarded a first class degree, the next best, an upper second class degree (usually referred to as a 2:1), the next a lower second class degree (usually referred to as a 2:2), and those with the lowest marks gain a third class degree. An Ordinary or unclassified degree (which does not give the graduate the right to add '(Hons)') may be awarded if a student has completed the full honours degree course but hasn't obtained the total required passes sufficient to merit a third-class honours degree. Alternatively a degree may be denied honours if the student has had to retake courses.
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In American terms, I think GPA of 3.5 to 4 would be a First Class Honors degree in the UK ("a first"), 3 to 3.5 a 2:1 ("two-one") and less than 3.0 a 2:2 ("two-two") and below.
Because a degree has nowhere its previous value, only 2:1s and Firsts are considered for graduate study and other competitive things.
43.4% of 2006 graduates who gained a 2.1 - this was the most common degree classification
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Wow, quite complicated. Thanks for the explanation. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| WHile a generalization (as there are some really hard and good arts degrees out there), you have to remember a 3.5 on a 4.0 scale for a general arts degree takes about the equivalent intelligence and work as a 2.0 for a real degree (like engineering, physics, law, etc) in my opinion at least. You have to take out the degrees that people go into cause they couldn't get into anything else (or failed into them). |
I hate that.
I have an Arts BA and knew quite a few science students who thought they could waltz into a fourth year Arts seminar and do just dandy (you know, because its so easy).
Anyway, the few science students I knew that tried this in their later years (fourth year Chemistry/Biology/Physics BSc), failed terribly.
One of my friends used to make fun of me for taking Arts and boasted how well she would do even in the upper level courses without the prerequisites. So she took a 3000 level Philosophy elective in her fourth year of her BSc and failed miserably. It was a course on early Existentialism, specifically Nietzsche and Kierkegaard.
Anyway, her opinion of Arts shifted from easy to useless and stupid (Neitzsche's "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" was a "big book of nothing" and not worth reading).
Sure, Arts is easy at some universities, but being good at one doesn't implicitly state that you'd be good at the other. Most of the Arts students you're talking about either get their act together, or drop out. Remembering my latter courses in my university career, I can't remember there being nearly as many idiots in my third/fourth year courses as there were in my first/second.
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