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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| riverboy wrote: |
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
I am sure the dead in Iraq are saying how good it is to be free. Oh wait....
they are dead!
Bottom line, any war of aggression is wrong. I don't support wars by any nation attempting to impose imperialist policy, Russia and Chechnya for example, never supported it.
I also don't support regimes which are comprised of war profiteers. It is all very bad for the world in general and not very good for peace in general |
Saddam would have killed off the Kurds and invaded Kuwait had he not been taken down. Lives saved cause Saddam was taken out too. Not in your book but nevertheless they do count.
Forcing Bathists , Khomeini followers or Al Qaedists to quit their war is not a war of aggression,
Riverboy you only have a problem with war by the US not by its enemies so you are a not anti war just anti US. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ernie wrote: |
| if you're going to talk about how 'evil' saddam is, you better mention that the good ol' US of A supported him for most of that time! |
Well Khomeni was evil too. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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US actions stopped more of this from happening.
Anyway your source is a 9-11 conspiracy site so anything there isn't too credible . like you. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Oh I see photographs of deformed babies, means that it never happened. Great logic there. So what is your logic? Let me guess, if the regime is republican and says it is so then we all should believe everything they say. Everyone else is wrong.
Excuse me if I use your logic for a second... Anyways, your stats and figures come from neoconservative right wing facist websites, so it doesn't count. It's kind of the kid with the football who makes the rules as they go. You will always win arguments if you have an auto discredit clause in your discussions.
I don't care where the pictures come from. They make me sick to think that this war is being supported by people when the vast majority of educated people are opening up their eyes and realising the real nature of the war. You can talk like a paranoid schitzophrenic all you want when it comes to American security.
America is not threatened by any major regime, especially the little miniscule unimportant Taliban. The war on terror is, was and will continue to be about a certain wealthy minority in America and other countries who see unlimited profit in making perpetual war. Very simple. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh I see photographs of deformed babies, means that it never happened. Great logic there. So what is your logic? Let me guess, if the regime is republican and says it is so then we all should believe everything they say. Everyone else is wrong. |
Excuse me if I use your logic for a second... Anyways, y
That is what Saddam did, and what he would do if he got free.
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| our stats and figures come from neoconservative right wing facist websites, so it doesn't count. It's kind of the kid with the football who makes the rules as they go. You will always win arguments if you have an auto discredit clause in your discussions. |
Oh I see the media is all controled by the right wing I see a conspiracy.  Moonbat.
The left wing apologizes for fascists just as long as they hate the US.
Fact is there is no reason to just believe your website w/o question.
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| I don't care where the pictures come from. They make me sick to think that this war is being supported by people when the vast majority of educated people are opening up their eyes and realising the real nature of the war. You can talk like a paranoid schitzophrenic all you want when it comes to American security. |
The nature of the war is that the Bathists , the Khomeni followers and the Al Qaedists are all fascist bigots won't give up their war.
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| America is not threatened by any major regime, especially the little miniscule unimportant Taliban. The war on terror is, was and will continue to be about a certain wealthy minority in America and other countries who see unlimited profit in making perpetual war. Very simple. |
9-11 isn't a threat? The Bathists , the Khomeni followers and the Al Qaedists won't give up their war.
The war on terror is to make them give up their war. That is why it is justified.
As I said before you and those like you are not anti war you are only anti war by the US. War by the enemies attacks against the US don't concern you. You are disingenous pure and simple. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:32 am Post subject: |
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That's why I condemned Russia war on Chechnya. Talk about selective reading skills. I also condemn the regime in Myamar. I'm not to fond of the regime in China either. My only issue is that every crime against humanity the US does is excusable according to crackpots like you.
I am Canadian and I oppose Canada's presence in Afghanistan. I, unlike you am man enough to criticise and question my government , other governments and my own political beliefs.
Anyhow, this discussion will get us nowhere. You are paranoid about American being so fragile that they have to attack Iraq because a bunch of Saudi's flew a few planes into the WTC and the Pentagon. If the current administraton wasn't so incompetent, it never would have happened.
I will now distance myself for the discussion and allow the last post............. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| riverboy wrote: |
That's why I condemned Russia war on Chechnya. Talk about selective reading skills. I also condemn the regime in Myamar. I'm not to fond of the regime in China either. My only issue is that every crime against humanity the US does is excusable according to crackpots like you.
I am Canadian and I oppose Canada's presence in Afghanistan. I, unlike you am man enough to criticise and question my government , other governments and my own political beliefs.
Anyhow, this discussion will get us nowhere. You are paranoid about American being so fragile that they have to attack Iraq because a bunch of Saudi's flew a few planes into the WTC and the Pentagon. If the current administraton wasn't so incompetent, it never would have happened.
I will now distance myself for the discussion and allow the last post............. |
You don't oppose the war by the Bathists the Khomeni followers and the Al Qadist against the the US.
When they teach hate and incite violence as a military tactic and when they support terror and fund Al Qaeda as a military tactic is it war.
You are not anti war just anti US and anti establishment . You are dishonest case closed. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| riverboy wrote: |
| America is not threatened by any major regime, especially the little miniscule unimportant Taliban. The war on terror is, was and will continue to be about a certain wealthy minority in America and other countries who see unlimited profit in making perpetual war. Very simple. |
Psst! Hey Joo. Read the above parragraph slowly and learn from it. It's very simple~ even you can get it, if you really want to. 
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Harpeau wrote: |
| riverboy wrote: |
| America is not threatened by any major regime, especially the little miniscule unimportant Taliban. The war on terror is, was and will continue to be about a certain wealthy minority in America and other countries who see unlimited profit in making perpetual war. Very simple. |
Psst! Hey Joo. Read the above parragraph slowly aand learn from it. It's very simple~ even you can get it, if you really want to. |
One 9-11 was enough . No more |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Harpeau wrote: |
| riverboy wrote: |
| America is not threatened by any major regime, especially the little miniscule unimportant Taliban. The war on terror is, was and will continue to be about a certain wealthy minority in America and other countries who see unlimited profit in making perpetual war. Very simple. |
Psst! Hey Joo. Read the above parragraph slowly and learn from it. It's very simple~ even you can get it, if you really want to. |
So when the planes went into the towers that was also "miniscule" and "unimportant"? Yes the Taliban did not directly do that...that was AQ, but the Taliban gave them shelter afterwards therefore they bear much of the responsibility for that (it's called accessory after the fact) and they certainly bear responsibility for the war in Afghanistan.
The threat the Taliban pose in this era of globablization and nuclear proliferation is out of all proportion to their numbers. That does not make it any less real.
Tell me something. If Taliban agents were able to get their hands on a nuclear bomb or "dirty" bomb and exploded it in the vicinity of your family and friends...would you still feel this way?
Suppose after the above event someone said to you "Oh don't worry about the Taliban...they're unimportant"? |
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