| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Who has read the Bible and Koran completely more than once |
| I have read the Bible and Koran more than once |
|
52% |
[ 12 ] |
| I have read the Bible and Koran once |
|
17% |
[ 4 ] |
| I have read sentences from the Bible and Koran and used them |
|
26% |
[ 6 ] |
| I have been told that these sentences exist in the Bible and Koran |
|
4% |
[ 1 ] |
|
| Total Votes : 23 |
|
| Author |
Message |
Flummoxed Lummox
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
Personally, you explain it as all christians use the OT to justfy their hate but who are you speaking too? Are you blaming the quakers for not supporting violence? Are you blaming the chinese christians for seeking freedom of speech?
Who are all these so called christians using the OT to justify their hatred? |
I grew up in the Bible Belt (USA). Believe me there are many, many Christians who cite the Old Testament whenever the subject of homosexuality comes up ... although they also conveniently ignore the parts of the OT that call for women who have sex during their menstral cycle to be stoned; or where Yahweh calls for children to be killed; etc., etc. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| The OP's question is useless. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| The OP's question is useless. |
She certainly doesn't have much in the way of intellectual reservoirs to draw upon, I'll grant you. Christian bimbos. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| mithridates wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
Ive read alot of the new testament so I guess only christians are fair game.
Saying that Ive yet to read Mein Kampf so I should probably stop giving Hitler a hard time. After all it is completely ridiculous to critiscise an organisation/person's actions without first perusing their literature. |
That analogy doesn't work of course because Hitler was the author of the book whereas Christians haven't each written the Bible. |
OK, then, how about this: Hitler was the originator and central figure of Nazism, the way Jesus was for Christianity. Mein Kampf is a sort of Bible for Nazis. So, do I have to read Mein Kampf cover-to-cover before criticizing Nazis or Nazism? Do I have to read the Bible cover-to-cover before criticizing those -few- Christians who bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Charlton Hesting will be playing Mohammed in the full movie version of the Quran. It will be directed by Mel Gibson who will go through a drunken anti Zionist diatribe. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Flummoxed Lummox wrote: |
| I grew up in the Bible Belt (USA). Believe me there are many, many Christians who cite the Old Testament whenever the subject of homosexuality comes up ... although they also conveniently ignore the parts of the OT that call for women who have sex during their menstral cycle to be stoned; or where Yahweh calls for children to be killed; etc., etc. |
I hope you're not insinuating what I think you're insinuating. Christians are by and large a bunch of hypocritical, hateful twats? Could it be? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Summerwine do you just like asking dumb questions and then flee? |
I like to cook fish and then eating. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
Ive read alot of the new testament so I guess only christians are fair game.
Saying that Ive yet to read Mein Kampf so I should probably stop giving Hitler a hard time. After all it is completely ridiculous to critiscise an organisation/person's actions without first perusing their literature. |
That analogy doesn't work of course because Hitler was the author of the book whereas Christians haven't each written the Bible. |
OK, then, how about this: Hitler was the originator and central figure of Nazism, the way Jesus was for Christianity. Mein Kampf is a sort of Bible for Nazis. So, do I have to read Mein Kampf cover-to-cover before criticizing Nazis or Nazism? Do I have to read the Bible cover-to-cover before criticizing those -few- Christians who bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors? |
No, of course not.
Depending on your level of interest though (and for those posting on a forum on the subject I would rate their interest as high) you would find yourself better able to convince a person from any school of thought that their position is wrong if you knew what they were supposed to believe compared to what they claim.
Of course, Orthodox Christianity doesn't follow sola scriptura so when discussing that subject, just relaying on Bible quotes doesn't do anybody any good. Depends on which branch you're talking about. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Location: asdfghjk
|
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: For those who criticise the Christians and Muslims |
|
|
| What a ridiculous OP... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
manlyboy

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
|
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
| JMO wrote: |
Ive read alot of the new testament so I guess only christians are fair game.
Saying that Ive yet to read Mein Kampf so I should probably stop giving Hitler a hard time... |
Look on the bright side. When you do get around to reading the Koran and Mein Kampf you can easily find them on the same shelf at your local Muslim bookstore. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Henry VII
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Seoul
|
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I have read both and found them mildly enjoyable. That said, no matter how many times you read them - that doesn't make them factual. One needs to know the history surrounding the books they read, not just the text of the books themselves. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
|
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil.
Albert Einstein
I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation and is but a reflection of human frailty.
Albert Einstein |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
|
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
God always takes the simplest way.
Albert Einstein
God does not play dice.
Albert Einstein
God may be subtle, but he isn't plain mean.
Albert Einstein |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Flummoxed Lummox
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
|
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
| Quote: |
Flummoxed Lummox wrote:
I grew up in the Bible Belt (USA). Believe me there are many, many Christians who cite the Old Testament whenever the subject of homosexuality comes up ... although they also conveniently ignore the parts of the OT that call for women who have sex during their menstral cycle to be stoned; or where Yahweh calls for children to be killed; etc., etc. |
I hope you're not insinuating what I think you're insinuating. Christians are by and large a bunch of hypocritical, hateful twats? Could it be? |
I'm not insinuating anything. It's a fact that many Bible thumpers in the South love to quote the OT when it fits their agenda, especially regarding homosexuality. But one rarely hears them address the passages where Yahweh is portrayed as a bloodthirsty, capricious, xenophobic deity. You can draw your own conclusion. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Flummoxed Lummox wrote: |
| Quote: |
Personally, you explain it as all christians use the OT to justfy their hate but who are you speaking too? Are you blaming the quakers for not supporting violence? Are you blaming the chinese christians for seeking freedom of speech?
Who are all these so called christians using the OT to justify their hatred? |
I grew up in the Bible Belt (USA). Believe me there are many, many Christians who cite the Old Testament whenever the subject of homosexuality comes up ... although they also conveniently ignore the parts of the OT that call for women who have sex during their menstral cycle to be stoned; or where Yahweh calls for children to be killed; etc., etc. |
Who was it on this board who was saying homosexuals should be put to death, right after Chris Neil was caught? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|