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JMO
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I agree with Spinoza.
A major part of evolution is that a species only evolves and becomes stronger by a process by which those who are less "able" do not survive. This woman's death has made our species stronger. We should not ever prevent religious or otherwise stupid people from finding ways to die. In fact, encourage it (no, I think praying instead of cancer treatment is a good idea!)! Our gene pool will thank you! |
She passed her genes on to her children. Indeed the most religious people seem to marry younger and have more children. From an evolutionary point of view, maybe strong religious beliefs are a plus. |
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yawarakaijin
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
I agree with Spinoza.
A major part of evolution is that a species only evolves and becomes stronger by a process by which those who are less "able" do not survive. This woman's death has made our species stronger. We should not ever prevent religious or otherwise stupid people from finding ways to die. In fact, encourage it (no, I think praying instead of cancer treatment is a good idea!)! Our gene pool will thank you! |
She passed her genes on to her children. Indeed the most religious people seem to marry younger and have more children. From an evolutionary point of view, maybe strong religious beliefs are a plus. |
That is balanced out by how many die in religious wars or refuse simple treatments. Evolution at work people! "Hey! We are all dying off in religous wars, let's have more babies!" Perhaps, in the years to come, relgious fundametalists with develop an extra uterus or perhaps an extra *beep* to impregnate two wives at once! |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Terrible for the children obviously, but she personally is getting her ass kicked by Darwin and humanity can be relieved such a creature can pollute the genepool no more.
Like the Koreans who suffer and die due to blood shortages.....might be an idea if you stopped refusing foreign blood donations wouldn't it, you morons?  If there are Koreans out there who would rather their people suffer and die than have a non-Korean's blood, do say 하이 to Charles Darwin in Heaven for me, won't you? |
Which nationalities does Korea refuse? I've seen foreigners giving blood(I had too much alcohol in my blood at the time). I know America refused Brits for fear of CJD(human form of mad cow's disease) not sure if they still do.
Silly JW, but what do you do? You can't force a lung cancer patient to quit smoking. Can you force people like her to go against their beliefs? |
Well, let's not dwell on it too much because it's off-topic, but I've heard many reports about foleigner brud being not accepted. I donated many times in the UK and was delighted to here too, but changed my mind upon hearing the news. People who desperately seek the blood I would otherwise be only too happy to donate will go without, but we've the four-eyed xenophobes to blame who, despite medical qualifications, and possibly even surgically enhanced Caucasian-style eyelids, seek only Korean blood in the intellectually, morally disastrous view that Korean patients seek only Korean blood. |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| That is balanced out by how many die in religious wars |
The other religion bashing by the athiest religion is really tiring. The thinkers here are tired being talked to like we are stupid.
Hitler - athiest - mass murderer
Stalin - athiest - mass murderer
Mao - athiest - mass murderer
USA -Godless Multicultural Nation - mass murderer
I can't tell if you are evangelizing the religion of athiesm or not but the repeated references to "religious wars" is just tiring. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:29 am Post subject: |
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but she personally is getting her ass kicked by Darwin and humanity can be relieved such a creature can pollute the genepool no more.
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No she isn't getting her arse kicked by Darwin because Darwins dead. There is no life after this or isn't that the issue that has been force fed to me since I entered the school system? |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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The woman was 22 years old. An adult. She chose her consequences. This is no different than an elderly person refusing emergency measures at the other end of life.
I would have problems if the parents had refused medical treatment for the babies. |
(Shh, careful Yata. This is very rational. This is very libertarian. This is what Ron Paul thinks. Shhhhhhhhhhhh .... ) |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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but she personally is getting her ass kicked by Darwin and humanity can be relieved such a creature can pollute the genepool no more.
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No she isn't getting her arse kicked by Darwin because Darwins dead. There is no life after this or isn't that the issue that has been force fed to me since I entered the school system? |
I think he meant Darwin in the figurative sense. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| That is balanced out by how many die in religious wars |
The other religion bashing by the athiest religion is really tiring. The thinkers here are tired being talked to like we are stupid.
Hitler - athiest - mass murderer
Stalin - athiest - mass murderer
Mao - athiest - mass murderer
USA -Godless Multicultural Nation - mass murderer
I can't tell if you are evangelizing the religion of athiesm or not but the repeated references to "religious wars" is just tiring. |
Not all of the irreligious are atheist. Many are agnostics or anti-theists.
Anyhow, did Hitler kill in the name of atheism? Did Stalin say "in the name of the nothingness I shall kill you!". Or, did they just substitute god for 1) the state 2) the people (as represented by the state) 3) the revolution as manifested in the state 4) Godless America? Have you been paying attention?
If the person who kills you for your money just so happens to be religious, that is not a religious derived crime. If he kills you for god, it is. The same goes for the nutty state/revolution worshipers. |
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Missihippi
Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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I support population control.
Here's to you smokers and Jehovah's Witnesses, Cheers! |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| thepeel wrote: |
I agree with Spinoza.
A major part of evolution is that a species only evolves and becomes stronger by a process by which those who are less "able" do not survive. This woman's death has made our species stronger. We should not ever prevent religious or otherwise stupid people from finding ways to die. In fact, encourage it (no, I think praying instead of cancer treatment is a good idea!)! Our gene pool will thank you! |
She passed her genes on to her children. Indeed the most religious people seem to marry younger and have more children. From an evolutionary point of view, maybe strong religious beliefs are a plus. |
That is balanced out by how many die in religious wars or refuse simple treatments. Evolution at work people! "Hey! We are all dying off in religous wars, let's have more babies!" Perhaps, in the years to come, relgious fundametalists with develop an extra uterus or perhaps an extra *beep* to impregnate two wives at once! |
As long as you are reproducing before you go to war..then all is cool.
Evolution doesn't weed out the stupid, just the unfit. Fitness being measured in the number of ancestors you have at a later date(someone can say this better..) |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, shortly there will be synthetic blood available and it will all be a moot point. Still, I don't get why people cherry pick one or two things from the bible and decided to orient their entire sect around it like those idiots that play with rattle snakes. |
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Bramble
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This could have been an interesting thread, couldn't it? 
BTW, I never knew Hitler was an atheist. I heard he was a vegetarian, but that story turned out to be bogus. Where are the links supporting his alleged atheism?
I know he was raised Catholic, so surely the church should accept some of the blame for shaping his personality? |
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Big_Bird
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard [Hitler] was a vegetarian, but that story turned out to be bogus. |
That's interesting, Bramble. Where did you find out that it was bogus? Do you have a source/sources? I'd be interested in knowing a bit more about that. Cheers. |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard [Hitler] was a vegetarian, but that story turned out to be bogus. |
That's interesting, Bramble. Where did you find out that it was bogus? Do you have a source/sources? I'd be interested in knowing a bit more about that. Cheers. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler
Apparently he ate meat occasionally. However, it's really irrelevant what the guy ate. I'm sure plenty of serial killers out there like hamburgers, but does that mean that hamburgers make people become serial killers? Not one bit. Hell, Christopher Paul Neil is an omnivore but that doesn't mean that all omnivores will shortly become pedophiles.
The whole "Hitler was a veggie" thing pisses me off because it's a strawman argument thrown in the face of veggies by insecure people who feel threatened by vegetarianism. This is of course used to counter the "holier/moral(er)/better(er) than thou" attitude that all veggies are presumed to have (regardless of the individual veggie and their reasons for being so). As a pre-emptive strike against perceived superior attitudes, non-veggies will fall back to the "Hitler was a veggie" argument in an attempt to discredit--by association with Hitler--any pro-veggie arguments that could be out there. |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, TexasPete. At least one author did extensive research to refute the misconception that Hitler was a vegetarian or an "animal rights" supporter:
Rynn Berry book
I haven't read the book myself, just various reviews and related articles. Still, I think we can safely put the myth to rest. |
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