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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
I wouldn't go quad core at all right now for the same reasons that one shouldn't have bought into the early P4s or initial dual cores. They have a pattern: think Penryn.
P4 Willamette: a flop until Northwood.
Dual core: a flop until Core2duo.
CoreQuad: A flop until Penryn.
They always look good at first, because they are fast(er) than what's around, but Intel never get it together with their first releases. |
Well, I did end up going with the Q6600, mainly due to better video encoding numbers which is pretty much all I was really looking to get out of the upgrade.
Anyway, here is my heartwarming upgrade story. I headed down to Yongsan Saturday with my list in hand. I wandered around the Sunin Plaza for awhile asking here and there if they could get the parts I needed. The mainboard was a bit of a sticking point with the first couple guys, but the 3rd guy had no problem getting that, or any of the other components. (He did make an alternate mobo recommendation which I politely declined.)
In any case, I ended up picking up a Q6600, a Seagate 500 gig hard drive, 2 gigs of ram, and a gigabyte P35-DS3R 2.0 motherboard.
First of all, the guy, in distinct contrast with the guys over at I-Park, gave me the best price right off the bat without any of the jerk-the-customer-around that is so common in the other building. Nice touch, that. Big ups to Sunin Plaza.
Next, he did recommend I go with an Asus board, but as I hadn't researched the one mentioned at all I stuck with the one I wanted.
Third, and this was nice, when my items showed up in the shop he took the time to point out that the Q6600 had the newer G0 stepping, which I appreciated for 2 reasons. Number 1, that's the one I was hoping to get, and number 2, he gave me credit for knowing the hardware I wanted. (A lot of salespeople would assume you're too dumb to even know there were 2 different versions of the chip.)
So, that was that. All in all, the purchasing part of the day went painlessly.
So, then I got home and began the laborious process of ripping out the old mobo and throwing the new one in, which I've only done once before.
Ripping out the old board was easy enough. Putting in the new board was no problem other than connecting the case wires. Oh, and my drives needed to be rearranged a bit so they could all be connected. No big deal.
Anyway, closed the case, powered it up, and was very pleasantly surprised to find that I didn't need to do any funny stuff with windows. Booted right up and started detecting all the new hardware. Had one minor snafu with IE (which was a result of yahoo toolbar being bundled with the mobo software.) A quick uninstall of the aforementioned toolbar sorted that out.
All in all, a rather painless upgrade, considering I had reconciled myself to spending the weekend troubleshooting the thing. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Nice work Thunndarr.
A painless Yongsan shop? I'm pleasantly surprised.
Tha Q6600 will do a great job of encoding video, and everything else! Gonna overclock it? We have the same motherboard and I've already overclocked my E6750 to 3.2ghz (from 2.6ghz). It's been running for 36 hours now, stable.
That Q6600 with GO stepping would be a screamer with just a little overclocking. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Q6600 with GO stepping |
What was the price on it? |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| what is GO stepping and how much did that CPU cost you? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| what is GO stepping and how much did that CPU cost you? |
It's the newer version of the chip and is supposed to overclock a bit better. And I got it for 247,000 won (same price as danawa and I didn't bother haggling at all.)
Oh, and you'll know if you got G0 stepping if you check the serial # and it ends in SLACR. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
So far, great. The CPU with Zalman cooler runs extremely cool (18C idle!! Cooler than room temperature! Never over 34 on full load so lots of OC'ing potential).
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Just an fyi, if you are using speedfan, apparently it under-reports the temperature by 15 degrees. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
Just an fyi, if you are using speedfan, apparently it
under-reports the temperature by 15 degrees. |
Not for my motherboard. I've got my bios set to reboot if it goes over 65 degrees. I've seen the temp hanging at 63, move to 64 and then reboot at 65. Damn video encoding. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: Re: Built a couple of systems this weekend... |
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First was a second system for Yesterday.
CPU: Intel E6850 (3.0GHz, 1333FSB, 4MB cache)
Mainboard: Asus P5KC (DDR2/3, 1333 FSB capable, Penryn ready)
HDD: WD 400GB SATA2
RAM: 4GB Samsung (Generic, but is stable and seems to o/c fairly well)
Graphics: Nvidia 8800GTS
ODD: Samsung SATA Multi somethingorother DVD thingamabob
PSU: 600W (Can't recall the name, but it's a good one)
Case, other odds and ends...
All told 1,100,000.
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Weak I say. That still won't surpass my beast. |
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JustJohn
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't look weak to me  |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
Just an fyi, if you are using speedfan, apparently it
under-reports the temperature by 15 degrees. |
Not for my motherboard. I've got my bios set to reboot if it goes over 65 degrees. I've seen the temp hanging at 63, move to 64 and then reboot at 65. Damn video encoding. |
Ah, I think the error is only on Core 2s. I used a program called CoreTemp and sure enough, speedfan is off by 15 degrees on my computer. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:30 am Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| SuperHero wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
Just an fyi, if you are using speedfan, apparently it
under-reports the temperature by 15 degrees. |
Not for my motherboard. I've got my bios set to reboot if it goes over 65 degrees. I've seen the temp hanging at 63, move to 64 and then reboot at 65. Damn video encoding. |
Ah, I think the error is only on Core 2s. I used a program called CoreTemp and sure enough, speedfan is off by 15 degrees on my computer. |
I'm using Speedfan, Coretemp and Everest.
Coretemp and Everest agree. An average of 49C in each core at full load.
Speedfan usually reads 14C-15C lower. I don't know why so many people on the net recommend Speedfan. It doesn't even really tell you which temp is which.
The new version of Everest Ulitmate Edition is a very nice program and seems to be accurate. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I recently bought a rig with a 8600gts overclocked card. I was considering upgrading to a HD3850, but is it worth it? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I recently bought a rig with a 8600gts overclocked card. I was considering upgrading to a HD3850, but is it worth it? |
Here's a few benchmarks for a lot of graphics cards, including the two you mention, using the best new game in town. Call of Duty 4.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_rv670_performance_preview/page12.asp
The HD3850 is a hair better than the 8600GTS. Not really worth it as an upgrade. You'll need to go up over 200,000 won to get a card worth changing for. |
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Thunndarr
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| So, I just played through all of Call of Duty 4 and really loved it. The only problem was...was it just me, or is the single player campaign really short? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| So, I just played through all of Call of Duty 4 and really loved it. The only problem was...was it just me, or is the single player campaign really short? |
It's short. But I think if it was longer some parts would have to not be as exciting as others. It's short but it's varied. It's not just a run and shoot. |
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