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Can YOU read hangul?
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Can you read Hangul?
yes
93%
 93%  [ 77 ]
no
6%
 6%  [ 5 ]
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy enough to read menus or bus destinations, not much else. Tried reading a grade one level book of "fairy tales" and a good few words not in the dictionary I had, or else all the endings threw more off. By the way ㄴㅇ러ㅏ노 hangul never shows up on this board does it? At least not whenever i access it in the PC rooms.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So where is the thread about websites for learning Hangul?

It might be a sticky so I'll check it out. Thanks for the help.



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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
By the way ㄴㅇ러ㅏ노 hangul never shows up on this board does it? At least not whenever i access it in the PC rooms.

See this thread dude...
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=11200


wormholes101 wrote:
matthews_world wrote:
I know maybe 2 letters of Hangul - 's' and 'm'.

They can be quite handy, those letters aye? Wink

Next stop: 'b' and 'd'.

Learning Hangul? People seem to think this is a good one~
http://korean.sogang.ac.kr/
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FierceInvalid



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learned the basics before I got here, but was really slow and had no idea what to do about patchim. Study and street signs took care of that. These days I read comic books - fun practice (I also take a class every weekday, but that's mostly speaking and grammar).

WTF - I once asked a J-girl in my Korean class why the stank there's two phonetic writing systems that represent the exact same sounds in Japanese. She started with the answer you'd expect - Katakana is for borrowed foreign words, etc. So I pressed on with "Yeah, but why do you need a whole new set of symbols just for borrowed words? Why not just write them in Hiragana?" She was totally baffled, and looked at me like I had seven heads....I didn't get any further than that.
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whatthefunk



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FierceInvalid wrote:
WTF - I once asked a J-girl in my Korean class why the stank there's two phonetic writing systems that represent the exact same sounds in Japanese. She started with the answer you'd expect - Katakana is for borrowed foreign words, etc. So I pressed on with "Yeah, but why do you need a whole new set of symbols just for borrowed words? Why not just write them in Hiragana?" She was totally baffled, and looked at me like I had seven heads....I didn't get any further than that.


Yes, I have heard this responce as well, but I don't think there is much truth behind it. In one sentence, you could have both alphabets and the Chinese characters and no borrowed words. Someone told me that Katakana is for emphasis, which would make a little sense.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just assumed that katakana was for really fucking stupid people, hiragana was for stupid people, and kanji was for chimps.
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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: WORLDWIDE

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that the katakana is for emphasis. Actually, I like this because I know when I come across an imported word, helps me on pronunciation. The biggest problem I have with Korean is changing my pronunciation of an English word to Korean.

I studied Japanese before Korean and didn't have any trouble with the hiragana and katakana. The structure we learned it in was a bit slower than Korean classes that emphasize the hangeul, our Japanese was really conversational at first.

Kanji was a whole different story
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Sarah-in-Korea



Joined: 20 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatthefunk wrote:
Very easy. Im working on the Japanese alphabets now... Why do they have two of them!!?? There's something like a hundred letters all together not including the thousands of Chinese type characters that they use. Why can't they make it more simple so that us dumb foreigners can read them easier??


I learned Japanese at uni, but in true Korean style can't speak a dam word of it! The idea of two alphabets is great because they can stick all of the Japlish words into it and people know it's a foreign word. Think about Korean with the same alphabet for both Korean and foreign words and its result: people assimilate other languages into it unknowingly. If there was ever anything that would pollute the language its that. And, you get kids telling you that you're pronouncing Konglish words wrong! ("Teacher, not New Zee-lund, Nyuu-Jeerundu!).

I actually took out a Korean language book from the library at home before I knew I was coming here. I just decided I wanted to learn it and picked it up in a few hours. You've gotta love it for how simple it is. There are so few pronunciation exceptions.

The bus strategy worked for me. Since you only get a few seconds to work it out before it has passed you by, you get faster. I have to admit now tho that sometimes reading every hangul that passes my line of vision sometimes drives me crazy! Comprehension skills very low tho.
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, a korean version of Katakana would be great for all the Konglish. It would never happen though as anything seen to be borrowing from Japanese would never take off.
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Juggertha



Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, i'm so impressed theres more ppl like me.

I too can read (and write) at a fairly decent level.. I just cant understand anything. I've also done the "reading the bus hting" but that was less for practice and more for practical reasons.
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little mixed girl



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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little mixed girl



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jaebea



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: SYD

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think all soundeffects in manga are in katakana as well. Once again, it's the emphasis aspect of it, to make it stand out.

As for Korean, I could read/write/speak when I immigrated to Australia (kindergarten), but truth to tell, I haven't extended my skills much past that point. Went to Korean weekend school to bring them up to scratch, but it's not spectacular. I'm certain there are people of non-Korean descent who can outspeak, outwrite and outcomprehend me.. especially on this board. :)

The only new vocab and pronounciation revision I pick up is from the endless Korean videos that seem to pass through the house. :)

I noticed someone having trouble with when to recognise the double consonants, for example �� or ��. I think it's got a lot to do with context, in both spoken and written Korean. You can general grasp a hold on what they're talking about pretty easily from the context of what you're talking about, even if things sound odd.

jae.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... I'm quite impressed with the voting turn-out and that so many people have taken the time to learn the Hangul. 95% approximately... a bit more bearing in mind Desultude accidentally voted for no. Give yourself a pat on the back!
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hangul is SO SO SO easy. I think anyone can learn the basics in a few hours.. then practice for a few days.. its as simple as learning the numbers 1-100 in another language. Its takes about as long. Just remember the pattern, and its so scientific and phonetic.
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