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Ubuntu - is it worth installing?
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SusE site has two ISO to DL for 10.3 SuSE 32 and SuSE 64

You choose the interface you want during the installation.

I don't like GNOME so I use KDE.

Gnome is a lot like the old Mac interface. I was never comfortable with it.

KDE is a lot like windows.

However you can actually have both of them installed as well. choose one to start with and install the second one later and then switch between them

Apps for gnome and KDE will work in each other as well.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustJohn wrote:
Yeah, I think linux expects their users to be very informed.

I've gotten the general impression that gnome is supposed to be really simple, kde is kinda similar but with a lot more options - more complex. And xfc I haven't found as much about but I know their goal is to also offer some eye candy while being lightweight and intuitive - which sounds very nice at least in theory.


I really want some feedback from people who've actually used them and can tell me what they feel like though.


xfce is for machines with less grunt.

If you looked through the Ubuntu offerings you would have seen KUbuntu using KDE, Ubuntu using Gnome and XUbuntu using XFCE.

The nice thing is you can have them all running and just switch between them.
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JustJohn



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I have all 3 on SUSE at the same time too?

Also, would it be easy put on all 3 and then get rid of 2 you didn't want after you explored them all?
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes,

You don't need to remove them really either.
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JustJohn



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I'm anal so I always remove anything I'm not using.. Sad


Anyway, how about PClinuxOS, knoppix etc? Tried them? Opinions?


Also, about speed: Are some distros really faster? If so, which ones?

And about desktop environtments: It seems gnome and kbe are both adding fancier features now. If I like that stuff will that be enough or will I want beryl or compiz? Kde claims compiz has better effects but less solid standard operation. True or False?

And lastly, how about speed between desktop environments? I assume the ones with fancy effects enabled will be a little slower, but by how much and is there any noticible difference between say gnome and kde or beryl and compiz? Xfcde really faster than the standard gnome etc environments?



Okay, no more huge lists of questions after this. I promise.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustJohn wrote:
But I'm anal so I always remove anything I'm not using.. Sad


Anyway, how about PClinuxOS, knoppix etc? Tried them? Opinions?

Tried most of them during the summer vacation, kept coming back to SuSE. I do hear that PClinuxOS is coming along nicely though

Also, about speed: Are some distros really faster? If so, which ones?

Dunno - some distros are easier to setup. Mint comes with codecs and stuff that you will have to on others.

lGood site for fine tuning and downloading the essentials




And about desktop environtments: It seems gnome and kbe are both adding fancier features now. If I like that stuff will that be enough or will I want beryl or compiz? Kde claims compiz has better effects but less solid standard operation. True or False?

No idea, ran them for a week or so then never used them, I like the multiple desktops just by clicking on them in the bottom of my screen. Didn't see any need for fancy stuff.

Each to their own though


And lastly, how about speed between desktop environments? I assume the ones with fancy effects enabled will be a little slower, but by how much and is there any noticible difference between say gnome and kde or beryl and compiz? Xfcde really faster than the standard gnome etc environments?


Never noticed much difference myself but I do have a fairly new PC. I would presume that a slower less capable graphics card may slow down a bit with Beryl or Compiz running.

Give it a try and see what happens.



Okay, no more huge lists of questions after this. I promise.


One thing you will find is that people on the linux forums are fairly helpful but I also found that quite often they will tell you where to look and wait for you to try it yourself before offering any help.

Good luck
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JustJohn



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!


(If anyone else wants to chime in feel free too, this became a bit of a 2 person conversation this afternoon. Razz)
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kprrok



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone else see the obviously vast number of different options as a sign that it's hard to know which is the best one to install?

KPRROK
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really.

Nice thing about it is that as long as you set the home folder as a separate partition when you install a new flava of nix you can tell it to use the old home folder and anything you have perviously installed is there waiting for you on the new install.

For your average user it probably is a bit much, but if you have a want for a change then it's worth the adventure.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weren't a lot of people bitching and moaning about the number of versions of Vista offered? How is it good to have to do hours of research and then hours upon hours of testing to find which flavor of linux is the best for me?

Good lord, give me one OS, let it do what I want, and that's it!!!

Oh wait, that's XP for me!

KPRROK
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There you go.

I'm the sort of man who will happily wear a 3 pound pair of Tesco jeans. Buy six pairs at one time and find that all of them are cut slightly different.

You are obviously more into Marks and Spencers jeans where you know that the cut is always the same.

Just the way some people are.

Fact is though I can chuck my 3 quid jeans out and it's not exactly a dent in my wallet.
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a hackintosh.. I love it Smile
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I eventually installed Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Whilst it's OK, I'm not sure if was worth the considerable hassle it took to get up and running. One big problem is the lack of Active X. If this could be sorted then I would be halfway pleased. So far, I have to say it does feel and look nice, but the difficulty in doing simple things (such as enabling Korean input) is very frustrating.
I have to say that on initial impressions, WinXP is a much better OS all-round, but I am open to any suggestions about Linux.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
One big problem is the lack of Active X.

that's not a problem, that's a blessing.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
One big problem is the lack of Active X.

that's not a problem, that's a blessing.


Not really. There are a few sites with Active X that I often visit. Also, my Korean g/f uses the computer as well and Korean websites seem to love their Active X!
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