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[ernie]

i'm of the opinion that the meaning of words IS important, and that the misuse of words is a grave mistake and needs to be corrected...

[Enrico Palazzo]

[igotthisguitar]

[Enrico Palazzo]

[quote="igotthisguitar"]

Neither however, should anyone ever allow themselves to be bullied or cowed into silence by vicious "virtual" attacks. Launching cheap insults & threats are, for their part, usually desperate signs of the speaker having lost a debate, as well as indicating a clear lack of both civility, personal intelligence, sincerity & creativty.

That is presumably what the board is for: i.e. frank public discussion & exchange of views.

Either way, thank-you for your balanced & insightful comments.

igtg.


Okay, now to attend to your post, but not just specifically to you, IGOT.
Do you have a nickname, by the way, like guitar? You can call me Rico or Enrico.

You mentioned viciousness on the forum and bullying. I take it, you may feel bullied for your views. I am sure all posters have the right to civility, but it would also call for the said person wanting civility to act in a civil way in terms of not using vulgarity or for example spelling America thus - Amerika. The spelling of America that way is derogatory for some Americans just as somewhat.

You were called a nazi in a forum. It is a bit too far, but you had some derogatory cartoons beforehand. It doesn't help. These kinds of exchanges are not what the forum needs. I do, however, exhort the mates on this board to restrain from being vicious with you, and I ask you to consider and be mindful of what you post as well.

Back to the argument you just made, you brought up a percentage initially, but since you do not really know the percentage it didn't help an argumentation. If per your argument the majority of Israeli Jews were non-European, it would make them look, in your eyes, illegitimate as non-Semites as you view them. However, Israel since the 1970s has become mostly non-European according to many demographers. I read about that before. That is how the Likud became powerful. Labour alienated the Sephardic population and Begin became prime minister in the 1980s as a result. Israel has had many Sephardic ministers, I believe.

http://countrystudies.us/israel/38.htm
You can consult the above link.

There is nothing wrong with debating that you feel the Palestinians or whatever group on this Earth are being treated unjustly. You may feel they were dispossessed or what have you, but it doesn't give license to ignore statistics that may show the majority of Israelis since the 1970s are non-European, though it may have changed with the recent Russian influx. I am just saying the methodology seemed quite propagandistic.

As far as the Ashkenazis, I am not debating the merits or demerits of their leadership. If you read about them beyond what is surface, you would know it traces to the Jews who lived in Germany, not the ones from Russia who were Khazaric. European Jews are a mixture of Sephardic Jews who mixed with Khazars, Rhineland German non Khazar Jews.
I am sure research into that would bare that out. It is very easy to check it out.

You mentioned the mistreatment of non-Ashkenazi Jews. Historically, there was mistreatment of these people like the taking away of the Sephardic children in the 1950s from their families, throwing away the blood of Ethiopian Jews etc.... However, you didn't really acknowledge their heavy numbers until they were mentioned. If you say you are for human dignity and rights, should you not try to show what is out there in a balanced way and not just seeking to satisfy some egoic satisfaction tied to scoring political points?

This also applies to other people.... I am not for bashing you, and you are welcome if you are willing as others are hopefully willing to follow reasonable guidelines to make this place better.

Your response has been appreciated so far.... and the responses from others...

Again, on Friday I will have a more detailed summary of what I see or have seen... and make some commentary...

Thank you..


I shall respond to the above tonight. And highlight somethings you mentioned. At this moment, I haven't the time. This board needs a lot of cleaning up and work. There are major issues with what you have brought up. Some of your grievances are justified, but in some ways other posters believe you bring some problems to yourself with your style. Again, I will address what others are saying and what you are saying shortly....

EnRICO

[igotthisguitar]

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I think anti-semitism is on the rise. This may be a bit anecdotal, but it is appearing in people who would have denounced it only a decade before.