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| Should foreigners have fought in the Korean War? |
| Yes, the Korean War was necessary, and the sacrifices of foreigners worthwhile. |
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| The Korean War was necessary, but the South Koreans should have been allowed to fight it themselves. |
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| No, the Korean War was not necessary, and foreigners should have stayed out of it. |
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| No, the Korean War would not have been necessary if the American military were not stationed in South Korea. |
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| I don't know enough about the history of the Korean War to say whether it was necessary. |
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| I think the South Koreans may believe the war was not necessary, but I believe it was. |
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| Other. I think that.... |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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 Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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It's funny seeing the "America is now and always has been wrong!" crowd come out of the woodwork for threads like these.
The Soviets armed North Korea? America's fault!
The North invades the South with the help of the Soviets? America's fault!
The peninsula was divided into two parts? America's fault!
The south was prevented from becoming a starving hermit kingdom? Thanks to the UN!
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
It's funny seeing the "America is now and always has been wrong!" crowd come out of the woodwork for threads like these.
The Soviets armed North Korea? America's fault!
The North invades the South with the help of the Soviets? America's fault!
The peninsula was divided into two parts? America's fault!
The south was prevented from becoming a starving hermit kingdom? Thanks to the UN!
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Nobody said it was solely americas fault...it was the combined actions of foreign forces that led to the war..but the OP was asking in an american context..
dont get your knickers in a twist just because someone criticises the actions of the USA. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Css wrote: |
Nobody said it was solely americas fault...it was the combined actions of foreign forces that led to the war..but the OP was asking in an american context..
dont get your knickers in a twist just because someone criticises the actions of the USA. |
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The war was a direct result of foreign intervention so yes, the western nations had a duty to be involved.
The US especially given their awful handling of the situation following the end of ww2. |
Yeah, I get it. You're not saying it was solely the United States' fault. Just especially. Sorry for the mistake. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Slightly off topic. I'd love to see how America would react to Russia or China 'installing' a missile 'defence' system in Canada and Mexico. Seems to be the equivalent of what America has been doing in the East and Middle East. All about strategy. Always has been. Maintaining hegemonic status knows no bounds even if it means a little bit of collateral damage. If a few foreign people get killed in the process, what the hey?!?... |
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
Yeah, I get it. You're not saying it was solely the United States' fault. Just especially. Sorry for the mistake. |
Read it again..I said the US especially, had a DUTY TO GET INVOLVED..The Soviets were scumbags...it would be redundant to criticise them. Its already a given..They are the bad guys, you are the good guys..
and yes, there is a huge difference between especially and solely 
The US handled the situation badly..Thats pretty much the view of all western historians...Its understandable given the situation...but it doesnt change the fact it was handled badly...Not maliciously, just mishandled due to ineptitude.
Feel free to discuss the actual events instead of just throwing a tantrum...its a subject im very interested in and id love to learn more. |
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mikeyboy122
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
Location: namyang
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I must agree, though cautiously with race traitor. yes, I will refer to you by your username. I had to hear some semblance of an intellect before I could. You are correct South Korea would have been wiped out without help. I believe, I could be wrong, South Koreas G.D.P is 13th in the world. Where does North Korea rank? |
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Gamecock
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'll leave the war history debate aside for now...However, in my rural area here in the southern part of Korea I find a far different attitude towards the USA than I did when I lived in Seoul. Much like the USA, I find Korean small towns in rural areas to be more conservative and patriotic in a traditional sense (not just irrational nationalism=Korea #1).
Every week I see a large group of war veterans with their VFW-like hats meeting together to eat, there is a large war memorial at the edge of town which lists in Korean and English the number of killed and wounded soldiers from each nation that participated in war. Every year they have a remembrance ceremony. When I started working here, my 63 year-old principal told me that he was happy to have an American teacher in his school, because people here have a good feeling about Americans because of their help in the war!
So what is being taught to youngsters is certainly not uniform throughout Korea. |
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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to me that Koreans dont dislike the US because of the past, but for the actions of recent years...and due to the actions of the US military here in Korea...
The majority of complaints i hear are about US troops here..and the odd comment about israel or iraq. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I think the Koreans themselves need to shoulder some if not most of the blame for this one.
What I mean by that is even with the defeat of the Japanese, the Koreans were not unified in their resistance.
Hell, even during the Japanese occupation the Korean resistance wasn't unified.
Double hell, even during the Chosum Dynasty, the Korean were not united (i.e. minority yangban rule over a majority nobi "slave" class)
F-ing hell, the Koreans were never unified! |
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