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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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 Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
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I've personally seen people develop mild psychosis from smoking too much pot. This has been backed up by scientific research. It can cause various forms of psychosis if abused.
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I've seen that too. But you have to remember that this is limited to people already predisposed to mental problems.
Weed isn't the source of psychosis, but it can progress or awaken it. As can alcohol and cat s-hit. |
They're also extremly lazy and boring people. I mean have you ever met a hard working hippie |
the grateful dead.
my dad.
phish.
john lennon.
the people who set up the first woodstock festival.
pretty much every hippie who was drafted, i'd bet.
pretty much every hippie who draft-dodged - not an easy task, to be sure.
abbie hoffman.
george harrison.
the people who run high times. do glossy monthly periodicals get consistently produced by lazy people? no.
the ben and jerry's guys. i guess that'd be ben and jerry.
any number of annoying dudes who run software companies.
marc emery. actually, he's not a hippie, but he's a raging pothead and worked his way in to millionaire-hood.
my buddy chris who builds guitars in his apartment for a living.
any number of people who live in rural locales who have no day jobs but farm and grow weed for a living. you can't pull that off if you're lazy, even with the "cash crop".
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Thankyou!
George Soros - the pot heads a multi-millionaire!
Richard Bronson - yeah he can be a *beep*, but he's super successfull and routinlu shags supermodels.
Francis Crick - one of the co-discovers of of the DNA molucule (a discovery that literally changed the world).
* even though Crick was a major pot head, supposedly he said to an aquantance that his experiences with LSD helped him conseptulize the map for the DNA molecule. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Every single person you mentioned is now a yuppy. They cashed in the mediocrity. |
but when they were doing their most significant work, they were raging hippies. it turned a profit, but do you think those people have changed significantly since then? one or two maybe.
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| By hippy I mean the unwashed on Kho Sarn road. |
sorry, that's not a hippie. that's a fucking idiot. and if that's where you're getting your definitions... |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Australian who swallowed hashish dies
(BangkokPost.com) The Australian man who tried to smuggle 60 condoms stuffed with hashish in his stomach has died in Surat Thani hospital, the hospital confirmed on Thursday.
Hospital workers said John Paul Jones, 50, rushed to hospital on April 11 by friends, died last Saturday.
The Australian Broadcasting Commission reported death was from septicaemia and liver failure.
Jones' friends told the hospital that he had suffered stomach pains. When the hospital examined him, they found 60 sausage-shaped condoms stuffed with hashish in his intestine - three of which had burst.
He remained in hosptial, although police in the meantime filed charges of possession of narcotics.
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) in Canberra confirmed the death of Jones, from Queensland state.
"A 50-year-old man who was hospitalised in Surat Thani in Thailand on the 11th of April ... he died on the 19th of April," a DFAT spokesman said, without naming Jones for privacy reasons.
"His family has been advised of his death and, in co-ordination with the Australian embassy in Bangkok, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade in Canberra is continuing to provide consular assistance to his family." |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Australian who swallowed hashish dies
(BangkokPost.com) The Australian man who tried to smuggle 60 condoms stuffed with hashish in his stomach has died in Surat Thani hospital, the hospital confirmed on Thursday.
Hospital workers said John Paul Jones, 50, rushed to hospital on April 11 by friends, died last Saturday.
The Australian Broadcasting Commission reported death was from septicaemia and liver failure.
Jones' friends told the hospital that he had suffered stomach pains. When the hospital examined him, they found 60 sausage-shaped condoms stuffed with hashish in his intestine - three of which had burst.
He remained in hosptial, although police in the meantime filed charges of possession of narcotics.
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) in Canberra confirmed the death of Jones, from Queensland state.
"A 50-year-old man who was hospitalised in Surat Thani in Thailand on the 11th of April ... he died on the 19th of April," a DFAT spokesman said, without naming Jones for privacy reasons.
"His family has been advised of his death and, in co-ordination with the Australian embassy in Bangkok, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade in Canberra is continuing to provide consular assistance to his family." |
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If someone swallowed 60 condoms full of orageno, I'm sure they would die too. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Australian who swallowed hashish dies
(BangkokPost.com) The Australian man who tried to smuggle 60 condoms stuffed with hashish in his stomach has died in Surat Thani hospital, the hospital confirmed on Thursday.
Hospital workers said John Paul Jones, 50, rushed to hospital on April 11 by friends, died last Saturday.
The Australian Broadcasting Commission reported death was from septicaemia and liver failure.
Jones' friends told the hospital that he had suffered stomach pains. When the hospital examined him, they found 60 sausage-shaped condoms stuffed with hashish in his intestine - three of which had burst.
He remained in hosptial, although police in the meantime filed charges of possession of narcotics.
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) in Canberra confirmed the death of Jones, from Queensland state.
"A 50-year-old man who was hospitalised in Surat Thani in Thailand on the 11th of April ... he died on the 19th of April," a DFAT spokesman said, without naming Jones for privacy reasons.
"His family has been advised of his death and, in co-ordination with the Australian embassy in Bangkok, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade in Canberra is continuing to provide consular assistance to his family." |
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Probrubly one of those guys on this site who complaines he can't get a teaching job because he looks like Grizzly Adams.
Personally I'm glad the Koreans are piss testing people for weed it'll at least get rid of the riff raff
They should round up all the people who went to see Neal Young and deport them. If their guilty of anything it's having extremly bad taste. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with pot is it tricks you. It makes one feel like watching Golden Girls is 'doing something' or playing colecovision is 'busy'. Then that is cyclical; one day of this misperceived 'business' leads to the next and soon, great swaths of time have passed and nothing substantial has been accomplished; it really fools you into complacence.
The ratio of dead-end potheads far outweighs the rich overachiever pothead for good reason. If anyone believes that George Sirouwhatever got rich while smoking 4 joints a day, you must still be high.
It may have benefits, but only during certain periods of one's development.
High school and the retirement home; those are the times for pot, if any at all. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: |
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The problem with pot is it tricks you. It makes one feel like watching Golden Girls is 'doing something' or playing colecovision is 'busy'. Then that is cyclical; one day of this misperceived 'business' leads to the next and soon, great swaths of time have passed and nothing substantial has been accomplished; it really fools you into complacence.
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describes alcohol use/abuse quite clearly, only "golden girls" and "colecovision" are "going to the pub and possibly having the most meaningless conversations possible with people you'd have to be drunk to talk with in the first place.
not much difference. still a giant waste of time, only one is a bit healthier on the body. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Fishead soup has confessed to alcoholism on here many times. Mrsquirrel also said he�s had problems with alcohol. It�s always the height of hypocrisy and indecency to criticize users of other substances when you�re addicted to one yourself. You, to us, are as annoying as the PC feminazis who look down on you for your boozing. It's like taking ethics from a hooker or a fraudster. Alcoholics are, with rare and isolated exceptions, scum, total scum.
The claim that marijuana causes mental illness is completely at odds with the scientific consensus. The latter says that, yes, marijuana can hasten the appearance of an underlying psychiatric disorder. It does not say that it can cause the disorder. Once again, like with global warming, like with evolution, like with 9/11, the debate sees scientific consensus of expertise vs unemployable hagwon jockey.
Cocaine and dyacetylmorphine hydrochloride (heroin) have a medical role. Cocaine in many countries is sprayed on the back of the throat to aid endoscopes (and in dentistry because it�s a local anaesthetic) and heroin used a painkiller for heart attack sufferers, cancer sufferers, serious injury sufferers and even relatively trivially as a cough and/or diahrea suppressant. In the UK, heroin is injected into the skulls of prematurely born babies. Cannabis (though not smoking) will likely have a medical role in the future for numerous things, notably MS. These facts alone demonstrate that illegal drugs are benign and beneficial. Alcoholic hagwon jockeys in Asia benefit nobody, least of all themselves. The vast majority of Rock and Roll music was created by people really fucking high, so there alone is the immediate, powerful justification for drug-use. People should be force-fed drugs and alcohol (and Tool). It should be illegal not to drink and do drugs. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup has confessed to alcoholism on here many times. Mrsquirrel also said he�s had problems with alcohol. It�s always the height of hypocrisy and indecency to criticize users of other substances when you�re addicted to one yourself. |
it's also kind of bad form to live down to someone else's taking the low road.
i believe that fishhead decried pot not because he was a hypocrite but because he just isn't that informed about it. or, perhaps he is like many and has some form of prejudice about it because it's a scary illegal drug.
people tend to grow out of that, give the guy a break. |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Please tell us about these "severe mind altering qualities"?
One more question- has any of these phrases ever been uttered in the history of humankind?
"He got so high on marijuana and
-got in a huge fight!
-beat his wife/kids!
-violently destroyed property!
-died of marijuana poisoning!"
Well, it's certainly common for alcohol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Ever heard of the Manson family. They were spaced out. Pot makes people spaced out. |
Ever heard of Carl Sagan? He was pretty spaced out too and an avid pot smoker. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Cannabis (though not smoking) will likely have a medical role in the future for numerous things, notably MS.
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GW Pharma shares plunge after cannabis drug fails final-stage trial
Shares in GW Pharmaceuticals lost more than a quarter of their value yesterday after the announcement that a trial of its cannabis-based drug Sativex had failed its final phase of testing.
The trial is one of three the company is undertaking to assess the suitability of cannabis as an effective treatment for combating multiple sclerosis and relieving pain for cancer sufferers.
The bad results announced yesterday, which centred on a mouth spray form of the drug used to relieve neuropathic pain among MS sufferers, caused the group's share price to tumble to 52p, down 19.5p or 27 per cent.
However, analysts covering the pharmaceutical sector stressed that it does not mean the end for Sativex. The results were due to an unexpectedly large placebo effect among some of the patients in the trial, which the company said it had only become aware of during testing.
About half of the patients treated with Sativex saw a 30 per cent improvement in pain relief, according to a scoring system. However, to show the trial had worked, the company was required not only to demonstrate that the drug actually reduced pain, but also that it was more effective than a placebo. The trail results showed that nearly half of the placebo group that had not received Sativex also enjoyed a 30 per cent pain improvement.
According to Justin Gover, GW Pharmaceutical's managing director, the drop in share price was an over-reaction by the market. "The results are certainly unfortunate," he said. "But all our testing shows that this treatment works and is effective. With the way the market is at present, any negative news does not go down well with investors."
Analysts agreed that, despite the results, the failure of the trial was due to technicality rather than a fundamental problem with the treatment. "Today's phase three result showed yet again that GW's lead product works," Ibraheem Mahmood, an analyst at Investec said. "It did not, however, reach a statistically watertight conclusion. We believe this was down to the challenges of designing trials in conditions such as pain and MS, which are innately variable and subjective."
GW has two further trials in which to assess Sativex. The drug is being trailed in Europe to test its effectiveness in treating MS and in the US for cancer pain.
Both trials are due to be completed in the fourth quarter of this year and neither uses the dosing issue that tripped up the neuropathic tests. "The statistics [on the neuropathic test] were clouded," says Gover. "But we can take a large degree of comfort from the fact that we have good results in early testing for the other trials."
If GW can make future tests work, Gover believes it will reach a turning point that includes milestone payments. "Develop-ment of Sativex for its two key indicators remains on track, with the potential to trigger a total of �13m to �15m in milestones on the first UK and EU approvals � still possible in 2009/10," agreed analysts at Edison. |
Interesting that you remeber that I have an alcohol problem - which I may or may not. I like to drink, I like to drink a lot, so I don't. Is that a problem? Sometimes it's hard to stop but 995 of the time I don't need to drink. Just seemed like such a wast eof my time.
I used to smoke as well. used to smoke a lot,Stopped that without any problems. Again just a waste of my time.
i've been on both sides of the argument. The stance I have now is that I think pretty much all of them are bad. Alcohol, dope, smack and crack. They all *beep* up lives.
What you pro-dope smokers always fail to miss is that dope is ILLEGAL here in Korea. Doesn't matter what your opinion is or what the scientific facts show. Here it's illegal and if you do smoke here you are a fool.
Back in your own country do as you will.
As long as you don't drive stoned of course. Always found it interesting that people will happily get into their car and drive absolutely blazed but they would never think of doing it drunk. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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i've been on both sides of the argument. The stance I have now is that I think pretty much all of them are bad. Alcohol, dope, smack and crack. They all *beep* up lives. |
No, they may of f-ucked up your life, bt cetainly not mine.
Just cause you couldn't handle your addictions, it doesn't mean you should impose your failures on me.
I know I sound harsh, but I occasionally drink and smoked a hell of a lot of weed when I was back in Canada. I considered myself a pretty good person (like I am now) and maintained an A average over my latst two years of University. I was high practially every evening during that time (although I usually only need a toke or three).
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| What you pro-dope smokers always fail to miss is that dope is ILLEGAL here in Korea. Doesn't matter what your opinion is or what the scientific facts show. Here it's illegal and if you do smoke here you are a fool. |
I agree that people probably shouldn't smoke here considering how ruthless the autorities here are towards marjuana. And personally I have never smoked it here cause it's not my country and I don't want to be deported.
But the marijuana laws in South Korea and elsewhere are total bull$hit! And if someone in South Korea ever got charged (foregner or Korean) for marijuana posession I would feel sympathy towards them.
I wouldn't cheerlead the authorities like some of you morons on this bord do. 
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| As long as you don't drive stoned of course. Always found it interesting that people will happily get into their car and drive absolutely blazed but they would never think of doing it drunk. |
Actually I've seen two seperate studues (one from Oregon and another from Australia) that kind of disprove this.
Still you shouldn't be driving an atomobile if your blitzed. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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i've been on both sides of the argument. The stance I have now is that I think pretty much all of them are bad. Alcohol, dope, smack and crack. They all *beep* up lives. |
No, they may of f-ucked up your life, bt cetainly not mine.
Just cause you couldn't handle your addictions, it doesn't mean you should impose your failures on me.
I know I sound harsh, but I occasionally drink and smoked a hell of a lot of weed when I was back in Canada. I considered myself a pretty good person (like I am now) and maintained an A average over my latst two years of University. I was high practially every evening during that time (although I usually only need a toke or three).
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...and now you teach in Korea and ramble about your glory days on a web forum! |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| They should round up all the people who went to see Neal Young and deport them. If their guilty of anything it's having extremly bad taste. |
One should spend a quiet afternoon, smoke a bit and soak up the words of some classic literature - it will do wonders for your spelling. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with pot is it tricks you. It makes one feel like watching Golden Girls is 'doing something' or playing colecovision is 'busy'. Then that is cyclical; one day of this misperceived 'business' leads to the next and soon, great swaths of time have passed and nothing substantial has been accomplished; it really fools you into complacence.
The ratio of dead-end potheads far outweighs the rich overachiever pothead for good reason. If anyone believes that George Sirouwhatever got rich while smoking 4 joints a day, you must still be high.
It may have benefits, but only during certain periods of one's development.
High school and the retirement home; those are the times for pot, if any at all. |
It doesn't make you more creative it just turns you into a bum |
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