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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
Isn't that a coincidence? I've never had the desire to invite you over for a cup. |
Good. I might not be gracious in my rejection. Anyway, the point is I can make a nice cup at home too. But I also like to leave my place from time to time, do stuff, and then enjoy a coffee in a public place. |
I posted above that, yes, I do patronize coffeeshops, too, if only to get out of the house and read a book. But coffee? I'll buy a decent tea or a steamed milk instead. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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In my opinion, Starbucks has damaged coffee culture. Because of them, now a $5 cup of coffee is the norm. People don't give it a second thought anymore. Just pay it.
I never go to Starbucks because I refuse to pay more than $2 for a cup of coffee. In Korea, the closest thing I could get to a decent cup of coffee for $2 was Dunkin Donuts.
More often than not, I just go without when I go out. I might start carrying my own coffee in a thermos.
Starbucks is a perfect illustration of how capitalism works - screw people at both ends of the sale, the coffee growers and the customers at Starbucks. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Starbucks is a perfect illustration of how capitalism works - screw people at both ends of the sale, the coffee growers and the customers at Starbucks. |
QFS (quoted for stupidity) |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
In my opinion, Starbucks has damaged coffee culture. Because of them, now a $5 cup of coffee is the norm. People don't give it a second thought anymore. Just pay it.
I never go to Starbucks because I refuse to pay more than $2 for a cup of coffee. In Korea, the closest thing I could get to a decent cup of coffee for $2 was Dunkin Donuts.
More often than not, I just go without when I go out. I might start carrying my own coffee in a thermos.
Starbucks is a perfect illustration of how capitalism works - screw people at both ends of the sale, the coffee growers and the customers at Starbucks. |
a) You can buy a good cup of brewed coffee at starbucks for $2 or less, which will taste better than the crap in your thermos.
b) You can buy a fancier coffee for ~$5 at starbucks, which will not be cheaper elsewhere, and is up to your discretion.
c) Starbucks has actually done much good for the coffee industry in the U.S. and elsewhere - practically inventing a new market for smaller 'indy' coffee shops to plant themselves in, while raising the overall standard of coffee (starbucks actually has quite good joe, no matter what you think of them as a company). Thus you have more choice as a consumer because of Starbucks.
You obviously didn't think before you posted... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Dev wrote: |
| I never go to Starbucks because I refuse to pay more than $2 for a cup of coffee. |
I used to work at a second cup when a large coffee was $1. Do you know how hard it is to provide a nice store in a nice location and try to make a go selling $1 coffees? What health plans do your indie coffee shop workers get? What stock option plans do they get? How much above minimum wage do they get? It's not cheap to employ people. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Starbucks Gets Pleas Not to Close Stores
By JANET ADAMY and ANNA PRIOR
July 21, 2008
Now that Starbucks Corp. has disclosed the 600 locations it wants to shutter, a phenomenon is taking hold: the Save Our Starbucks campaign.
In towns as small as Bloomfield, N.M., and metropolises as large as New York, customers and city officials are starting to write letters, place phone calls, circulate petitions and otherwise plead with the coffee company to change its mind.
"Now that it's going away, we're devastated," said Kate Walker, a facilities manager for software company SunGard Financial Systems who recently learned of a store closing in New York City.
It is an unusual twist in the saga of Starbucks, one of the fastest-growing retailers of the past decade. For years, Starbucks gained attention when a town didn't welcome it. Independent coffee shops complained about the big-muscled competition, and residents bemoaned the erosion of local character.
But ever since Starbucks announced this month that it would close 600 stores by early next year, as its business struggles, the rallying cause has switched to saving these endangered locations. |
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121642002363666365.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| ^ OMG that is so lame. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Starbucks Gets Pleas Not to Close Stores
By JANET ADAMY and ANNA PRIOR
July 21, 2008
Now that Starbucks Corp. has disclosed the 600 locations it wants to shutter, a phenomenon is taking hold: the Save Our Starbucks campaign.
In towns as small as Bloomfield, N.M., and metropolises as large as New York, customers and city officials are starting to write letters, place phone calls, circulate petitions and otherwise plead with the coffee company to change its mind.
"Now that it's going away, we're devastated," said Kate Walker, a facilities manager for software company SunGard Financial Systems who recently learned of a store closing in New York City.
It is an unusual twist in the saga of Starbucks, one of the fastest-growing retailers of the past decade. For years, Starbucks gained attention when a town didn't welcome it. Independent coffee shops complained about the big-muscled competition, and residents bemoaned the erosion of local character.
But ever since Starbucks announced this month that it would close 600 stores by early next year, as its business struggles, the rallying cause has switched to saving these endangered locations. |
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121642002363666365.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today |
Cant they just walk down the block to the other Starbucks shop? |
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A2Steve
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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as far as corporations go, they've led by example as far as ethical trading, employee remuneration and quality control go... but it's still a corporation and i'd prefer vancouver's caffe abbruzzese anyday over the green mermaid.
however, in korea, it's the easiest way to get a consistent dose of freedom of espresso. |
they do offer a fairly decent job for what it is. you can get insurance and other benefits there that you cant at a lot of others.
of course, my biggest beef with 'em is their oversaturation in what seems EVERYWHERE on earth. that seems to be correcting itself, unfortunately, for the workers.
I recall a Lous B Black joke, where he states he reached "the end of the known universe" at an airport when he looked across the port and saw a SB, then turned in the other direction, and saw another one.
My other gripe is not using normal languages for drinks. Small, Medium, and large, please. Having an Italian name doesnt mean add three bucks to the price...... |
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