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crash bang
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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seriously awesome movie. very faithful to the source material, both literally and in tone. and the slightly altered ending actually works better than the big damn squid
go see it. now |
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Spike
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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No squid, no pirate comics...
but still a wicked movie. |
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crash bang
Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Location: gwangju
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| no squid made it better, and the pirate comics are supposed to be put back in the extended dvd release |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:55 am Post subject: |
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the best batman was Keaton!
everyone else were just second best!
and Val Kilmer and george clooney were just ridiculous! |
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tjmauermann
Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: Watchmen |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
the best batman was Keaton!
everyone else were just second best!
and Val Kilmer and george clooney were just ridiculous! |
I like Bale myself, but Bob Kane the creator of Batman said Kilmer was his favorite. Which I find really odd. |
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GreenlightmeansGO

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Watchmen |
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| tjmauermann wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
the best batman was Keaton!
everyone else were just second best!
and Val Kilmer and george clooney were just ridiculous! |
I like Bale myself, but Bob Kane the creator of Batman said Kilmer was his favorite. Which I find really odd. |
Well, consider that Kane never got to see Bale as Batman and that he created Batman with something in mind...perhaps Kilmer embodied what he saw in his original rendering of the hero.
Furthermore, he's dealing with a lot of other options, like the camp series and movies. The modern options, for him, were Keaton, Kilmer or Clooney (the KKK - as far as sounds go ). Maybe he really loved the large codpieces from Batman & Robin, but he never got to tell anyone (he died the year after it was released).
As for the ending of Watchmen - leaving out the squid-thing might not be a better ending...depending on what you're looking for. Moore was doing different things to the superhero genre and the squid idea was a huge ploy, requiring many people, in the same vein as good-old crazy, super-villain maneuvers. There are elements to the story that are weird, and the squid suited the comic.
Whether it could have been pulled-off in a film, however, is another question. |
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tjmauermann
Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: Watchmen |
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I really enjoyed the Watchmen movie. I had read the graphic novel so I knew what to expect and I knew that the ending was changed and I have to say it didn't take anything away from what Moore originally depicted.
With what I would say 50% of the audience not having read the novel I think that had a giant squid been the bomb that they would have had a WTF moment and it really would have confused them. The way it was done in the movie was perfectly fine.
That said new news on the Iron Man 2 front:
Mickey Rourke is some new Russian bad guy (didn't catch the name) and Scarlett Johansen will be getting into some really tight leather outfit to portray the Black Widow. Looking good. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Is it too late to put in a spoiler alert?! Anyway....
Can't believe I'm hearing this! Or reading it! Cool movie but the psychic squid would have been way better. Sure if they just shoved it in there it may have been a problem. But what they replaced it with made even less sense. The point of the squid was that it also released a mass psychic induced public fear. There were hints through out the book to genetic engineering etc. They could have made it work. Maybe an alternative ending for the Blue Ray, I hope. They could also chuck in the pirate story. Still a great movie with characters that will be talked about for a long time to come. I'm sure with the cash they are making a prequel will probably come out(which I'd be wary of). |
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tjmauermann
Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: Watchmen |
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| The pirate movie was released as a cartoon on dvd and blu-ray the week of Watchmen opening. I am sure it will be an extra on the dvd. |
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tomwaits

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Location: PC Bong
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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It's like Superman 1 on speed. HA
All you need to see of this pompous douchebaggery is the opening credits.
And it might help to be drunk even for that. |
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pkang0202

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I think you really need to understand a few things in order to fully appreciate the Watchmen.
1. You need to have understood just how groundbreaking the Watchmen, as a comic book, was. If you never read comic books during that era, and never saw the impact the Watchmen had on comic books, then you can't appreciate it.
I compare it to Citizen Kane. Someone who's seen Citizen Kane wouldn't understand why its such a great movie, unless they saw other movies before its time.
2. You need to have read the graphic novels.
I like to compare this to Lord of the Rings trilogy. If no one had read Tolkien's novels, they wouldn't see how incredible the feat was to put that story on the big screen.
I never read the Watchmen. So when I saw the movie, I struggled through it. A couple times I thought about walking out of the movie. i'm sure if I had read the graphic novels, and had understood the importance of the Watchmen, then I would've enjoyed the movie much better. |
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tjmauermann
Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: Watchmen |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
I think you really need to understand a few things in order to fully appreciate the Watchmen.
1. You need to have understood just how groundbreaking the Watchmen, as a comic book, was. If you never read comic books during that era, and never saw the impact the Watchmen had on comic books, then you can't appreciate it.
I compare it to Citizen Kane. Someone who's seen Citizen Kane wouldn't understand why its such a great movie, unless they saw other movies before its time.
2. You need to have read the graphic novels.
I like to compare this to Lord of the Rings trilogy. If no one had read Tolkien's novels, they wouldn't see how incredible the feat was to put that story on the big screen.
I never read the Watchmen. So when I saw the movie, I struggled through it. A couple times I thought about walking out of the movie. i'm sure if I had read the graphic novels, and had understood the importance of the Watchmen, then I would've enjoyed the movie much better. |
Well stated. |
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tjmauermann
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DrOctagon

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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| I thought it was alright. The beginning was really slow and the characters were all kinda boring, but other than that it was a decent film. |
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the ireland

Joined: 11 May 2008 Location: korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: |
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there were lots of almost seat squirming moments in it, like the very graphic sex scene with hallelujah playing in the background. It was also really funny and weird to see dr manhattan just walking around with his *beep* out throughout the movie, it even moved from side to side when he walked anywhere
All in all it was a good movie, but when my g.f asked me my opinion on it, the only word i could think to describe it was "odd", she agreed |
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