|
Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
aka Dave
Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river
|
 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| Either he's a super hero or tainted. Both are possible. It's really remarkable that he won the 200m by the margin that he did. And it's really unlikely that Jamaica, a tiny country, is producing the track stars that they are. Color me cynical. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| No, I don't believe any of the athletes, including Usain Bolt, competing in the 100M that day, are "clean." They all dope. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
| itaewonguy wrote: |
I mean all athletes know now how strict the IOC are with testing...
Would he be that stupid to risk it. I say he is clean |
How can they be strict with drugs that are untestable? See my comments on the Michael Phelps thread somewhere else on this forum.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=131806&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
Last edited by Bryan on Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:26 am; edited 2 times in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| asylum seeker wrote: |
| If the US misses out on a gold medal then the other competitor must be on steroids, underage or cheating in some other way. It's the only logical conclusion. There's no way another country's athlete could beat a US athlete through training or superior physical prowess alone. |
No, Usain bolt is doping along with US athletes and everyone else at the Olympic level. They're all doping and you have to be to get there. A natural body simply cannot compete with a doper. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
|
| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| nautilus wrote: |
| Len8 wrote: |
| He should make it a double with a 200 meters win to go along with his 100 meter win |
He did. And once again, he casually jogged over the line ahead of the field. When you have the physique of a racehorse, there ain't no need for dope. |
It wasn't a casual jog this time. He gave it everything from the start to the finish. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Crack Baby
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
|
| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
The smart roid users (by this I mean their smart scientists) are always one step ahead of the testers.
They have the advantage of knowing how to test things themselves.
So they know if their new synthetic concoction will pass or fail the current IOC test. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
seoulteacher
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Crack Baby wrote: |
The smart roid users (by this I mean their smart scientists) are always one step ahead of the testers.
They have the advantage of knowing how to test things themselves.
So they know if their new synthetic concoction will pass or fail the current IOC test. |
Well, seems that WADA et al are not waiting for further testing
(and its a joke, all you who are not familiar with Jamaican foods  )...
OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
In a joint statement issued by the presidents of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), International Olympic Committee (IOC), and the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF), the following Jamaican foods have been placed on the list of banned substances issued by WADA:
yam, green, bananas, cocoa, dasheen, breadfruit, ackee and saltfish, mackeral run down, turned cornmeal, Jerked pork and chicken, escovietched fish Malta, Supligen, Milo (said to be the food drink of Champions), Horlicks and coconut oil.
Jamaicans seem to become extremely athletic on diets with these foods. Coming out of WADA labs, one of the major banned substances from Jamaica is the Cassava root, a high fibre, high starch tuber root eaten in Jamaica. It has properties which are said to enhance endurance and cause muscle fibres to twitch faster.
This comes after extensive study of the diets of the Jamaican athletes which took part in the Beijing 2008 Olympic games. Though natural foods it is felt by WADA that these foods because of their unique properties give Jamaican athletes an unfair advantage.
High concentrations of carbohydrates and other naturally occurring substances are said to be mimicking the effects of Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs). Some foods have been noted to in particular cause an unusual increase in the male hormone testosterone. As such WADA has seen it fit to add these foods to the list of banned substances.
Given the sensitivity of this issue, Jamaican athletes participating in the current Olympic games underway in Beijing have not been banned but must submit to these new restrictions within the next two years.
Two substances which have been discovered in testing of the Jamaican foods are "yamstenine", a yam derivative and "cocosterone", a derivative of the coco plant. These substances have been found to mimic nandrolone and the blood booster EPO, hence the preliminary banning of the substances themselves and the banning of the foods they derive from.
This ruling will also affect other Caribbean and some African countries which share similar diets to Jamaicans. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
