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laogaiguk
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| head-in-the-clouds wrote: |
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| groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda and so forth, are being seen in the Islamic world as groups that will bring strength and pride back into their faith (kinda' like the way the Templars, the Teutonic Knights and the Order of Malta were seen back in the Middle Ages in Europe).........Thats why they are able to recruit so many willing "jihadi", collect many 'charitable contributions', and based on the Islamic belief that "Thy will shelter my enemy's enemy", are able to find many safe havens all over the Islamic World. |
Where?
I don't blame you for thinking such a thought but there's simply far too many people open to being brainwashed by the anti Muslim brigade.
What you said just doesn't make sense. Of the Muslims I know, none of them feel that pride and strength needs to be brought back into their faith. They do what they do and leave everyone else to get on with it. There are arseholes in every quarter. There will always be arseholes and to form an opinion based on said arseholes makes anyone who does an absolute arsehole. |
your right and there are 'arseholes' in our quater. However, the dont tend to fly planes into buildings and blow up underground trains in the name of god.
Think before we type please kids  |
It's not as common, definitely, but what about Timothy McVeigh? |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| head-in-the-clouds wrote: |
| DaveMcK wrote: |
| Louie wrote: |
| groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda and so forth, are being seen in the Islamic world as groups that will bring strength and pride back into their faith (kinda' like the way the Templars, the Teutonic Knights and the Order of Malta were seen back in the Middle Ages in Europe).........Thats why they are able to recruit so many willing "jihadi", collect many 'charitable contributions', and based on the Islamic belief that "Thy will shelter my enemy's enemy", are able to find many safe havens all over the Islamic World. |
Where?
I don't blame you for thinking such a thought but there's simply far too many people open to being brainwashed by the anti Muslim brigade.
What you said just doesn't make sense. Of the Muslims I know, none of them feel that pride and strength needs to be brought back into their faith. They do what they do and leave everyone else to get on with it. There are arseholes in every quarter. There will always be arseholes and to form an opinion based on said arseholes makes anyone who does an absolute arsehole. |
your right and there are 'arseholes' in our quater. However, the dont tend to fly planes into buildings and blow up underground trains in the name of god.
Think before we type please kids |
It's not as common, definitely, but what about Timothy McVeigh? |
Go on then compare Timothy McVeigh to Al Qaeda, go on i dare you....idiot |
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DaveMcK
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Mate I don't want to get into an internet slanging match over this but if you think Christianity is innocent then you need to do some reading and form your own opinion rather than allowing the Christian propaganda to brainwash you.
The terrorists you speak of are not true Muslims and Islam itself cannot be blamed for them. It is forbidden in Islam to attack someone that has not done anything to you so to say they killed many people in the name of Islam doesn't make sense. They may think and say that but any idiot could kill innocent people and say they did it in the name of whatsoever they choose.
Think of what you consider to be the best car in the world. Think of yourself in that car flying down the autobahn and losing control then smashing it into the central reservation. Does that make your car a bad car?
By the by, I'm neither Christian nor Muslim so I'm not sure what you mean by 'our' quarter.
Peace.
PS. By no means do I wish to offend anyone. I respect everyone's right to follow whatever they wish. Just expressing my opinion on the matter. |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: London for now
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| DaveMcK wrote: |
Mate I don't want to get into an internet slanging match over this but if you think Christianity is innocent then you need to do some reading and form your own opinion rather than allowing the Christian propaganda to brainwash you.
The terrorists you speak of are not true Muslims and Islam itself cannot be blamed for them. It is forbidden in Islam to attack someone that has not done anything to you so to say they killed many people in the name of Islam doesn't make sense. They may think and say that but any idiot could kill innocent people and say they did it in the name of whatsoever they choose.
Think of what you consider to be the best car in the world. Think of yourself in that car flying down the autobahn and losing control then smashing it into the central reservation. Does that make your car a bad car?
By the by, I'm neither Christian nor Muslim so I'm not sure what you mean by 'our' quarter.
Peace. |
Where did i criticise islam? I just hate the way you put islamic terrorism down to a few bad apples, its simply not true. In the uk 2/3 muslims believe the twin towers was justified. Its hard to defend these people. |
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DaveMcK
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Where do you get that stat from?
I think that is completely way off the mark. I'm laughing actually, that's a crazy thing to say.
Are you in the UK? If not, when was the last time you were?
Ah, I see your location now. Well it's even more crazy a comment, given you're here now. I don't know a single Muslim who believes in that and I know quite a few people who are Muslim.
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head-in-the-clouds
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DaveMcK
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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HAHAAH
"...according to a shock new poll on an internet website..."
Mate, these people don't even know what jihad means.
Try not to believe everything you read on the internet.
Again, I mean no offence and I'm certainly not trying to patronise you. I just think it is ridiculous how many uninformed opinions there are on the subject that are taken as truth. |
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head-in-the-clouds
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| go read a michael moore book |
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Kuros
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| They invented algebra. |
The Greeks knew about algebra. Pythagoras' school almost certainly did. But it was suppressed from the public.
But, yes, the Islamic world may have independently fashioned the algebraic language we use today. |
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DaveMcK
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| head-in-the-clouds wrote: |
| go read a michael moore book |
OK, what would you recommend? |
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head-in-the-clouds
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| DaveMcK wrote: |
| head-in-the-clouds wrote: |
| go read a michael moore book |
OK, what would you recommend? |
Any will please you |
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DaveMcK
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| You don't like him? |
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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In a little over a week, we can say they achieved the presidency of the United States!  |
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DaveMcK
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| Here's hoping. |
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ED209
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They gave us atheists;
Al-Ma`arri
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Humayun Azad
Turan Dursun
In an interview with Şule Perin�ek, Dursun recounts one of the first instances, where he began doubting the existence of God. During a time when he was in love at the age of 11, Sabo, the older sister of the girl he loved, called Safi, was disabled. Dursun felt sorry for Sabo and one night during his sleep he saw God in his dream. After making him swear that he will not get angry, Dursun asked God why he created this Earth if he also created heaven and asked why Sabo was disabled and Safi was beautiful.
Ali Esbati
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
In a "no-holds-barred polemic" interview in the London Evening Standard,[58] Hirsi Ali characterizes Islam as "the new fascism". "Just like Nazism started with Hitler's vision, the Islamic vision is a caliphate�a society ruled by Sharia law�in which women who have sex before marriage are stoned to death, homosexuals are beaten, and "apostates like me are killed."
Ehsan Jami
After 9/11 in 2001, Jami started reading the Qur'an and Hadith, after which he decided he didn't identify with either. Jami criticized Islamic prophet Muhammad, describing him as a "criminal".
Loun�s Matoub
"Religion," he said, "is imposed, and I never accept something that is imposed upon me. I am a rebel, therefore I am not a Muslim".
Maryam Namazie
Nursultan Nazarbayev
Barack Obama, Sr.
Salman Rushdie
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Muslim_atheists
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