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digsydinner
Joined: 24 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| everyone's a racist to some degree...if you say you aren't one, you're lying. it's only human nature to associate certain behaviors to particular groups. |
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lithium

Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I mentioned race, because it does in fact matter here where I live. |
Yeah, but you live in the Deep South! Try to rise above your surroundings, rather than have them drag you down in the muck.
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| Step out of your glass house already. |
I'm not sure you are using this correctly.
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| That may be racist |
It is.
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| The fact that they were black also is important, because they make up more than 90 percent of the muggings and burglaries here and that is a fact. |
It may be a fact, but it is IRRELEVANT. The thing that is relevant to your story is that you were menaced by some criminals...the demographic make-up of your town has no relevance or interest to people reading it 10,000 miles away. You might as well post what you ate for breakfast that morning, it has just as much impact on your story as the youth's race.
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| If the guys were white, I would have said white. |
Again, I have to ask: WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?
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| You may think of me as a racist |
I do.
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| I think it's worth knowing the race of any offenders in criminal incidents, because it is a good way to gauge the demographics of an area. |
Does your newspaper regularily publish the race of suspects involved in street crime? I have never seen an American newspaper that does so. Why do newspapers withhold this important "way to gauge the demographics of an area?" Can you think of any good reason for them to do this?
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| To turn a blind eye to race just so you can think of yourself as not racist is naive at best. |
Then I guess I'm naive.
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| Step out of the glass house and into the real world already. |
Again, I don't think you are using this correctly.
I actually was mugged about 6 years ago by two black guys. They got my wallet which had my credit cards, driver's license, and about 20 bucks...so I didn't lose much, but it was still quite traumatic for me. It sucked. But the honest to god truth is, in all the many, many times I have re-told that story over the years, I have *never* mentioned the race of the muggers. Cuz it just ain't relevant in any way...they weren't "Black Muggers" they were "Muggers". Much the same way that I am not a "White Teacher", I am a "Teacher". |
Why are you so defensive? |
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kentucker4

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| Ruraljuror wrote: |
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| I mentioned race, because it does in fact matter here where I live. |
Yeah, but you live in the Deep South! Try to rise above your surroundings, rather than have them drag you down in the muck
The only thing dragging me down at the moment is reading your posts, but hey, I have always been a glutton for punishment.
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| Step out of your glass house already. |
I'm not sure you are using this correctly.
If you are not sure then don't say anything Einstein.
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| That may be racist |
It is.
Bite me.
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| The fact that they were black also is important, because they make up more than 90 percent of the muggings and burglaries here and that is a fact. |
It may be a fact, but it is IRRELEVANT. The thing that is relevant to your story is that you were menaced by some criminals...the demographic make-up of your town has no relevance or interest to people reading it 10,000 miles away. You might as well post what you ate for breakfast that morning, it has just as much impact on your story as the youth's race.
How is it not irrelevant when certain ethnic groups in certain areas can compose larger percentages of crime than others? Yes, it does in fact matter what the race of each perpetrator involved in a crime is. If it didn't then no one would keep crime figures for each ethnic group in the first place. It's important to know these things for each area.
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| If the guys were white, I would have said white. |
Again, I have to ask: WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?
Because i'm not a overly politically correct pansy like you.
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| You may think of me as a racist |
I do.
Great, now I won't sleep at night.
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| I think it's worth knowing the race of any offenders in criminal incidents, because it is a good way to gauge the demographics of an area. |
Does your newspaper regularly publish the race of suspects involved in street crime? I have never seen an American newspaper that does so. Why do newspapers withhold this important "way to gauge the demographics of an area?" Can you think of any good reason for them to do this?
No, we don't do that because we don't want to offend other overly politically correct pansies such as yourself.
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| To turn a blind eye to race just so you can think of yourself as not racist is naive at best. |
Then I guess I'm naive.
Yes, but I would also classify you as an idiot. At least you have that going for you as well.
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| Step out of the glass house and into the real world already. |
Again, I don't think you are using this correctly.
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I actually was mugged about 6 years ago by two black guys. They got my wallet which had my credit cards, driver's license, and about 20 bucks...so I didn't lose much, but it was still quite traumatic for me. It sucked. But the honest to god truth is, in all the many, many times I have re-told that story over the years, I have *never* mentioned the race of the muggers. Cuz it just ain't relevant in any way...they weren't "Black Muggers" they were "Muggers". Much the same way that I am not a "White Teacher", I am a "Teacher". |
It's obvious....you are just a better person than me.  |
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pr1ncejeffie
Joined: 07 Dec 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hey John Rocker, NY still hates you.  |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that public intoxication makes one an easy victim and illegal drug addiction/trafficking fuels a lot - if not practically all - violent street crime. |
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beast
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| blacks naturally gravitate towards street crime. Koreans naturally gravitate against street crime. Check the stats of blacks in jail vs. Koreans in Jail per capita of the population. |
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