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sugarkane59



Joined: 10 Jun 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of curiosity... is there an age when Korean women, if still single, are considered 'past it'?
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goku wrote:
Also, OP, If you talk to almost any parent, having children doesn't as fun as traveling around the world. But if you ask any parent, their children is their greatest joy. So don't think of children as a burden. It can bring you a joy you've never experienced before not like any country.

You are assuming they will have children. Not everyone feels the need.

EDIT: Nevermind. I see he used the word kids in the OP.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sugarkane59 wrote:
Out of curiosity... is there an age when Korean women, if still single, are considered 'past it'?


30
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SFValley



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
sugarkane59 wrote:
Out of curiosity... is there an age when Korean women, if still single, are considered 'past it'?


30


I believe the analogy that is commonly used regarding when a Korean girl ought to marry is a "Christmas cake" one - you usually get one before the 25th. In a bind, on the 25th. But you don't want one after the 25th.

Also, if foreign guys here are known to have a Korean gf while living here and then breaking up when exiting the country, the Korean girls here must be privy to this fact, I would imagine. I wouldn't feel too bad about it because girls should take responsibility for getting themselves into a situation that commonly ends up with the relationship not really getting all that serious.

In any case, if the Korean girl is getting pressured to marry by her parents, they most likely would not want her marrying a foreigner. That's just my guess.
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Kenny Kimchee



Joined: 12 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFValley wrote:


I believe the analogy that is commonly used regarding when a Korean girl ought to marry is a "Christmas cake" one - you usually get one before the 25th. In a bind, on the 25th. But you don't want one after the 25th.



That's a Japanese expression, not Korean, but the principle is the same.
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're lucky, you can find a woman that is divorced and much more appreciative of our non-Korean ways and much more flexible in her "demands" if there are any.
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think it over.

(most) Korean girls wont ask you twice and will leave you for good if you make them believe you are not interested in marrying them after they mention MMMMMMMMMMMRIAGE.

The speed they get married is shocking as well.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

East and West. Rarely do the mix well - especially when it comes to expectations of marriage.

Westerners marry for 'love' (or so the fairy tale goes). On the other hand, Asian ladies marry for other considerations that Westerners just can't fathom (parental wishes, cultural age/marriage norms age-specific gender roles, financial security, production of 'sons', and continuance of family lines.

Frankly, all the lovely-dovey stuff only comes after the finance and other stuff are checked out and approved by the family.

Op. You need to know that Korean girls say: "30 finish". How old is your girl???? Her age will give you your answer whether you should be tying the knot with a girl from one of the world's most conservative cultures.

PS: You also need to know that K girls call their husbands: "Money Making Machines."

Good luck. You're gonna need it.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:

Westerners marry for 'love' (or so the fairy tale goes). On the other hand, Asian ladies marry for other considerations that Westerners just can't fathom (parental wishes, cultural age/marriage norms age-specific gender roles, financial security, production of 'sons', and continuance of family lines.


Yes, Westerners just can't fathom women who marry for "financial security." That concept is so foreign to us that we also don't know what the term "gold digger" means.
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am surrounded by female teachers at my office, most in their mid to late twenties. I have no complaints on this front. Smile

It IS fascinating to watch them though. One, who's a product of one of Korea's better universities is obsesssed with being thought of as "beautiful" (which won't happen because she's not, but to me that doesn't matter as she's not "ugly" and I consider her fun and cool)

However, she did hit the big 3-0 this year so after showing me pics of various bf's including one she was giggling about because she was several years younger, I was recently stunned to learn that she's getting married. To whom? well, not any of the guys she was dating and giggling about last year. I don't know the details but sounds like a shotgun wedding to some "Samsung manager" type. She's become a lot less fun and more serious since the wedding date announcement.

Shame.

on another front one of my students was complaining about not having a gf because he's not "rich-ee", so as a kind of a joke I asked all the young g female teachers around us if they wanted a "rich-ee" bfs or husband and they immediately answered "yes" without even batting an eyelash.

I just chuckled.

In certain ways it's almost commendable that they don't by into the Western modern day "fairy tales", but in other ways my Western "values" can't help but leave me a little sad. I guess despite my cynicism I am stil somewhat of a romantic at heart. Shocked
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
oldfatfarang wrote:

Westerners marry for 'love' (or so the fairy tale goes). On the other hand, Asian ladies marry for other considerations that Westerners just can't fathom (parental wishes, cultural age/marriage norms age-specific gender roles, financial security, production of 'sons', and continuance of family lines.


Yes, Westerners just can't fathom women who marry for "financial security." That concept is so foreign to us that we also don't know what the term "gold digger" means.



when I was in college I worked a part time job with a divorcee in her thirties.

She would always tell me what her mother taught her - 'It's just as easy to love a rich man as it is a poor man".

so K-gals certainly haven't cornered the market on this WORLDWIDE phenomenon.

consider almost every single professional ahtlete marriage.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell her that in time, getting married when both of you are ready would be a good thing.

BUT, you had previous plans to travel. Also, invite her on said travel plans....
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Snake Doctor



Joined: 14 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
Tell her that in time, getting married when both of you are ready would be a good thing.

BUT, you had previous plans to travel. Also, invite her on said travel plans....



Where the heck have YOU been the last four-five years??
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Hindsight



Joined: 02 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Grunden, when did she ask you about your blood type?

On your first or second date?
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sakamuras wrote:
Well, it's quite obvious the OP led his girlfriend into believing the relationship is something serious. By taking responibility, it means being honest with her regarding future plans and goals. Based on what the OP said, it appears Korea was only a stop on a personal world tour. Nothing wrong with that, but at least grow a pair and let the girlfriend know what the intentions are. Seems like the OP wants the "benefits" of a gf here in Korea, while also still pursuing his own independent goals.

That is just selfish in my opinion. There's another human being involved in the equation.


It's quite obvious you're a self-righteous knob because you're judging people you nothing about.
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