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ekimswish · Joined: 24 Jan 2006

Wow... Can't believe Dave's has intelligent boxing fans! Awesome.

Anyways, Mayweather's "faked rib injury" theory is about selling tickets. Rumor has it the fight wasn't selling well, so he faked the injury so they could re-do it on Mexican Independence Day, or the weekend of. That's very possible. If that's not what happened, however, it tells of an aging, rusty, and injury-prone fighter. I shouldn't say "aging", but the rusty and injury prone may be true. The rumor about his retirement is that it was meant to allow him to heal a bunch of nagging injuries, specifically his shoulder. There's also the "money mayweather" aspect to all of this, where he figured a break from boxing would give someone else a chance to get big, then he could come back and fight a dramatic mega-fight with them, healthy as could be. He gave up a lot of money for a rematch with Oscar, but considering how close the fight was, maybe he considered the risk too great.

Onto Marquez. As good as he's been lately, he IS an aging fighter and looked it in the early going against Juan Diaz. The aging hasn't been a huge problem for him since he's never relied on his "raw athleticism" in the ring to beat people; he's done it with skill. But coming up in weight against someone who matches, and probably exceeds him in skill, and DESTROYS him physically, will be his downfall.

Mayweather has way better foot movement, defense, quickness, power, and probably even chin than Marquez. I think Marquez will be a game opponent, but that won't be enough.

The difference between Marquez and Pacquiao is that he does have amazing raw athletic ability. He was a world champion long before he had any real boxing skills. If I can give Marquez any credit in the Pacquiao wars, it's that he probably made Manny a better fighter. Nobody else could out-box Manny's physical gifts. Marquez forced Manny to be more than a jab-jab left-straight wonder-kid.

That said, Manny is a one-of-a-kind athlete who hasn't just brought his speed and power with him in weight, but maybe increased it. Not many people give him credit for fighting weight-drained himself at 130 pounds his last time out with Marquez. He says his legs were cramping. His conditioning trainer says he would lose a lot of power over the course of training camps as he came down in weight. Going into the fights with Oscar, Ricky, and even David, near his actual walking around weight helped him maximize his potential speed and power. And for all the talk about him being the smaller man, he looked a lot more jacked than they did. The guy's bulging with muscle from his shoulders and chest, down to his legs. He never had to "put on" muscle like Marquez has had to to fight above 140. He already had it. He was just losing it to fight down at 130.

About Cotto now... The guy's a terrific boxer, a strong and powerful guy, and a great warrior, but he did lose the punch stat battle with Clottey. He got the nod on the score cards because he "looked" better than Clottey. He was bouncing around on his toes with confidence, you know, looking like the man in charge. Clottey was chasing him around the ring like he hadn't gotten what he wanted. But the real punch stats showed that Clottey was the much better puncher in the fight. His problem is he got dropped by a stiff-jab, and played too many ring dramatics. Now, if Clottey, a defensive figher, can do what he did to Cotto, I gotta believe that Pacquiao will one-up it. I know Cotto's dangerous and could KTFO Pacquiao, but if I had to put my money on it, I'd say Pacquiao is too fast on his feet, too unpredictable with his angles, and just goes to work on Cotto's easy to cut face.

fermentation · Joined: 22 Jun 2009

ewok · Joined: 27 May 2007

I'm not a boxing fan, nor knowledgeable about the subject. However, a quick wikipedia check told me that Mayweather earned himself 25 million dollars fighting De La Hoya....

Now, considering the way many boxers seem to end up -- see Muhammed "shaky" Ali, --- I think if I were a millionaire on that scale (considering all his other fights), I'd say "the hell with it. I made my money, now I'm going to stop boxing so I can enjoy it past age 50, rather than risking becoming a walking vegetable...

fermentation · Joined: 22 Jun 2009

ekimswish · Joined: 24 Jan 2006

Mayweather will probably retire, when he does, with the least amount of damage to his head ever suffered by a boxer in history.

timolein23 · Joined: 08 Sep 2009

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fermentation · Joined: 22 Jun 2009

Hey guys, only one day away. The weigh ins are already done.

mc_jc · Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

The big question should be who you have your money on?

timolein23 · Joined: 08 Sep 2009

Mayweather 146 pounds
Marquez 142 pounds

MW came in 2 pounds over limit. If the deck wasnt already stacked in his favour it is now.
Marquex is a 3/1 undedog. Cant see Marquez winning but I would love it if he did.

Seul · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul

I'm a huge Marquez fan. The fight is less than 9 hours away. I can't wait. I hope it's another legendary fight.

MANDRL · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Location: South Korea

Damn, I'm at home in California and the fight is $50. One of the things I loved the most in Korea was the showing of PPV events live on tv, for free.

Yaya · Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul

Rteacher · Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA

My picks are Mayweather and Cotto, and Paul Williams would be a tough fight for both them and Pacquiao (as would Shane Moseley if he has enough left...)

In the meantime I've been watching UFC103 on Sopcast (shown delayed on SuperAction channel in Korea.)