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mlh



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've lost 48lbs living in Korea and I'll tell you what I've been doing.

Now first off i should mention that before coming here I had been living in West Africa and when I came home I went a little crazy with the junk food and in the 2 months I was home I probably gained a good 15lbs or so so it was easy to lose that once I got here just because I was more active. Also because my body wasn't used to the additional weight it was easier to shed. The longer you stay heavy the harder it is to lose.

I'm pretty active here. I walk my dog 2 1/2 to 3 hours everyday. Every morning we go for a 70 to 90 minute walk and every afternoon we go for another 70 to 90 minute walk. This is part of it but I found even after all the walking I eventually plateaued so I started weight training which was the best decision ever.

Now I'm back to my old high school weight but my body looks better than it did in high school because i'm more 'toned'. How I did it was I started out slow. Initialyl I'll lift weights where I'm fatigued at 8 reps. Once I can comfortably do 12 reps with a certain weight thats a signal to me to move up a kg or whatever and go back down to 6 or 8 reps and then work back up. I also try and change the weight lifting routine every 6 weeks or so because your body will get used to it.

So MWF I do weight (although sometimes I miss a day) and then TTh and sometimes Saturday I do HIIT or some kind of interval training. The treadmill is boring and I already do all that walking so I like HIIT cause I can finish in about 25 minutes and it keeps things interesting. Now this didn't come all at once and I had to build up to it but I've seen really great results.

The concern with cardio can be you'll experience muscle loss which is why the weight training is important and I supplement with protein powder because I find I don't eat as much meat here or protein rich food so I have a hard time getting the amount of protein I want.

As for eating at night I do and that hasn't effected my weight loss. I often don't eat dinner til 8 or 9 and I'm asleep by 10 or 11. Its a myth that eating at night will make you fat, but that said it does seem to effect people differently.

My sister is a personal trainer and even though she knows that eating at night is a 'myth' for her it does seem to effect her weight loss so everyone is different.

And as for being embarassed about going the gym that can be hard to get over. At first I really hated being up in front of everyone especially as the foreigner. But in the end I figured I could be fat or I could be embarassed. I picked being embarassed and people have lost interest as I'm now a gym regular.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?


I don't really believe in calories. I stopped eating carbs about a month ago, and my beer gut is nearly gone. Instead of rice, pasta, bread, whatever I just eat more meat and vegetables. I don't believe in cholesterol either. Had left over duck for breakfast this morning and will make it to lunch without snacking because fat keeps you full for ages. If I had cereal or toast, I would be eating some junk crap by now.


Do you seriously not believe that calories and cholesterol do not exist?
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
I am fairly small (5'4" 108 lb)

I never tried to lose weight, but I found this way to lose weight by chance:

My secret is sleeping a lot~!!!!! and skipping meals while sleeping.


This actually works, but I'm not sure how healthy it is. It will also make your skin look better.

I wish I were sleeping right now.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?


I don't really believe in calories. I stopped eating carbs about a month ago, and my beer gut is nearly gone. Instead of rice, pasta, bread, whatever I just eat more meat and vegetables. I don't believe in cholesterol either. Had left over duck for breakfast this morning and will make it to lunch without snacking because fat keeps you full for ages. If I had cereal or toast, I would be eating some junk crap by now.


Do you seriously not believe that calories and cholesterol do not exist?




I also don't believe in atoms, bacteria and exclamation marks, either.

What do you think? I was just down playing their importance. How do you think some people eat anything they want consistently and in large amounts, yet never gain weight? Genes or hormones just isn't that satisfying of an explanation. I think our current conception of a healthy diet has something to do with it and my current hypothesis is that we actually need animal fats to survive and that carbs are the real problem. Your body does convert most carbs into sugar after all. And animal fats are mega delicious. Water tight reasoning, I know.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captin Corea you are right about the source. It is important. However in the begining if some one is trying to lose I think they start by cutting calories. If the educate themselves on what foods have alot of calories then they will probably be cutting out the bad stuff anyway.

I'm not huge into the whole blood type diet but I do think it is an interesting thing for people to look at. It might help.

Weight training is a big part of shaping your body. Plus you never know when you might need strength. Don't say," I don't wanna look all big." Think of it as what if I'm (or someone you love) is trapped in a burning car or house. Or better yet getting attacked. That looking all big will come in handy.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?


I don't really believe in calories. I stopped eating carbs about a month ago, and my beer gut is nearly gone. Instead of rice, pasta, bread, whatever I just eat more meat and vegetables. I don't believe in cholesterol either. Had left over duck for breakfast this morning and will make it to lunch without snacking because fat keeps you full for ages. If I had cereal or toast, I would be eating some junk crap by now.



Vegetables are a carb source.
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warmachinenkorea



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?


I don't really believe in calories. I stopped eating carbs about a month ago, and my beer gut is nearly gone. Instead of rice, pasta, bread, whatever I just eat more meat and vegetables. I don't believe in cholesterol either. Had left over duck for breakfast this morning and will make it to lunch without snacking because fat keeps you full for ages. If I had cereal or toast, I would be eating some junk crap by now.



Vegetables are a carb source.


Yes they are. I'm sure he means he stopped eating many simple carbs. I to have tried to cut my simple carb intake. It makes me feel better. Ionly eat simple carbs after I have hit the heavy weight and drained my carb supply. Other than that I try to stay away. But hey cookies get me from time to time.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
Triban wrote:
You cannot do push-ups, period? Laughing


Not the OP, but I can't do them either. They make my wrists hurt. I barely feel anything in my muscles before my wrists hurt enough that I have to stop. WEAK.


WEAK.
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Rusty Shackleford



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

warmachinenkorea wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?


I don't really believe in calories. I stopped eating carbs about a month ago, and my beer gut is nearly gone. Instead of rice, pasta, bread, whatever I just eat more meat and vegetables. I don't believe in cholesterol either. Had left over duck for breakfast this morning and will make it to lunch without snacking because fat keeps you full for ages. If I had cereal or toast, I would be eating some junk crap by now.



Vegetables are a carb source.


Yes they are. I'm sure he means he stopped eating many simple carbs. I to have tried to cut my simple carb intake. It makes me feel better. Ionly eat simple carbs after I have hit the heavy weight and drained my carb supply. Other than that I try to stay away. But hey cookies get me from time to time.


Yea potatoes are out, too. It's not like I'm cutting that stuff out all together. Just eating less of it. I'm not trying to lose weight, just have more energy. And it appears to be working so far.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?


I don't really believe in calories. I stopped eating carbs about a month ago, and my beer gut is nearly gone. Instead of rice, pasta, bread, whatever I just eat more meat and vegetables. I don't believe in cholesterol either. Had left over duck for breakfast this morning and will make it to lunch without snacking because fat keeps you full for ages. If I had cereal or toast, I would be eating some junk crap by now.


Do you seriously not believe that calories and cholesterol do not exist?




I also don't believe in atoms, bacteria and exclamation marks, either.

What do you think? I was just down playing their importance. How do you think some people eat anything they want consistently and in large amounts, yet never gain weight? Genes or hormones just isn't that satisfying of an explanation. I think our current conception of a healthy diet has something to do with it and my current hypothesis is that we actually need animal fats to survive and that carbs are the real problem. Your body does convert most carbs into sugar after all. And animal fats are mega delicious. Water tight reasoning, I know.


1. Don't fault me for your poor writing. If you meant to say that carbs are not as important as people think, you should have wrote that.

2. I dare ya... that's right, dare ya to cut out carbs completely from your diet. I've known many a BB who have tried to cut it out... or only had fibrous carbs... and their brain turned to goo. So, by all means, cut carbs right out of your diet. Keep doing so for months. Eat only meats - I'd love to hear your results.

3. Just an FYI, animal fats CAN be converted into gyclogen.. but at a horrible rate compared to carbs. You're not the first one to theorize that - but you'l see how that rate affects performance after a while.

Good luck.
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda wrote:
I am fairly small (5'4" 108 lb)

I never tried to lose weight, but I found this way to lose weight by chance:

My secret is sleeping a lot~!!!!! and skipping meals while sleeping.

it takes several days to get used to it, then you feel comfortable staying this way.

dont eat anything after you get up until you feel hungry.

since you stomach keeps shrinking, you dont feel hungry easily, and you dont eat much even when you are hungry.

I lost 10 pounds in 2 weeks........(it was not I wanted though)

I don't think many experts will recommend that diet, but it's basically how I (involuntary) lose weight too. I'm simply too lazy to eat at times, and since my laziness is stronger than my hunger I lose weight. Especially if I am doing something fun I'll easily forget about eating. When I have been eating little for a few days I'll fill up much faster than usual and not feel much hunger, so the effect lasts for quite long.
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?

The calorie intake vs output is of course correct, but while eating 2000 calories in one meal and 2000 calories in 3 meals is the same for the input* it's not the same for the output. Eating more frequently will increase your metabolism and therefore increase your output. I'm not sure what you were trying to say, but I would say that it's both correct that you simply have to burn more calories than you eat, but also that this is easier to do if you eat more regularly.

*if the food you eat gives you digestion problems eating 2000 calories in one meal might actually be less than eating 2000 calories in 3 meals, but I think that's a special case we can disregard.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UknowsI wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?

The calorie intake vs output is of course correct, but while eating 2000 calories in one meal and 2000 calories in 3 meals is the same for the input* it's not the same for the output. Eating more frequently will increase your metabolism and therefore increase your output. I'm not sure what you were trying to say, but I would say that it's both correct that you simply have to burn more calories than you eat, but also that this is easier to do if you eat more regularly.

*if the food you eat gives you digestion problems eating 2000 calories in one meal might actually be less than eating 2000 calories in 3 meals, but I think that's a special case we can disregard.



Actually the part I bolded...that's a myth. There is no scientific evidence to support this.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's so much conflicting information here that this thread is pretty much useless.

Look elsewhere people!

I'd just go the easy route and do P90X for 90 days. It's pre-packaged, it works, blah blah blah. Actually, I'm in Phase 3 right now. Pretty sweet results.
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
UknowsI wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For all of those espousing the simple theory of 'calorie intake vs output', I have a question for you - If you ingested 2000 calories in one meal, vs ingesting 2000 calories over 3 meals, would it make a difference? What about the source of those calories? If I have a 2500 calorie meal at McDonalds, is that the same as 2500 calories ingested by other means?

The calorie intake vs output is of course correct, but while eating 2000 calories in one meal and 2000 calories in 3 meals is the same for the input* it's not the same for the output. Eating more frequently will increase your metabolism and therefore increase your output. I'm not sure what you were trying to say, but I would say that it's both correct that you simply have to burn more calories than you eat, but also that this is easier to do if you eat more regularly.

*if the food you eat gives you digestion problems eating 2000 calories in one meal might actually be less than eating 2000 calories in 3 meals, but I think that's a special case we can disregard.



Actually the part I bolded...that's a myth. There is no scientific evidence to support this.

I can't say if it automatically increases your metabolism, that might very well be a myth. But I'm much more energetic if I eat than if I don't. So if I eat my 2000 kcal at 9 PM I'm going to be quite lazy the rest of the day.
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