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[morrisonhotel]

[reactionary]

UCs aren't that expensive....The alternative public schools in CA are CSUs, which are a bit cheaper, but not by all that much if i recall correctly.

It ain't USC or Stanford.

[I'm no Picasso]

[morrisonhotel]

[NovaKart]

I'm so bored of these personal stories about people who can't afford college or got laid off cause of the tough economy. I know plenty of people like that personally, why do I have to switch on CNN to see it too? When I turn on CNN I expect either politics or some sensational stories. Not some gal going on about her tuition fees. I could go over to my neighbor and get the same damn story (if I was back in the US) I'm sticking to Wolf Blitzer and Nancy Grace from now on.

[Fox]

[madoka]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091209/us_time/08599194608800

Employers and career experts see a growing problem in American society - an abundance of college graduates, many burdened with tuition-loan debt, heading into the work world with a degree that doesn't mean much anymore.

The problem isn't just a soft job market - it's an oversupply of graduates. In 1973, a bachelor's degree was more of a rarity, since just 47% of high school graduates went on to college. By October 2008, that number had risen to nearly 70%. For many Americans today, a trip through college is considered as much of a birthright as a driver's license.
Marty Nemko, a career and education expert who has taught at U.C. Berkeley's Graduate School of Education, contends that the overflow in degree holders is the result of many weaker students attending colleges when other options may have served them better. "There is tremendous pressure to push kids through," he says, adding that as a result, too many students who aren't skilled become degree holders, promoting a perception among employers that higher education doesn't work. "That piece of paper no longer means very much, and employers know that," says Nemko. "Everybody's got it, so it's watered down."

What's not watered down is the tab. The cost of average tuition rose 6.5% this fall, and a report released on Dec. 1 by the Project on Student Debt showed that the IOU is getting bigger. Two-thirds of all students now leave college with outstanding loans; the average amount of debt rose to $23,200 in 2008. In the last academic year, the total amount loaned to students increased about 18% from the previous year, to $81 billion, according to the U.S. Department of Education.

Meanwhile, the unemployment rate for recent grads rose as well. It is now 10.6%, a record high.

The devaluation of a college degree is no secret on campus. An annual survey by the Higher Education Research Institute has long asked freshmen what they think their highest academic degree will be. In 1972, 38% of respondents said a bachelor's degree, but in 2008 only 22% answered the same. The number of freshmen planning to get a master's degree rose from 31% in 1972 to 42% in 2008. Says John Pryor, the institute's director: "Years ago, the bachelor's degree was the key to getting better jobs. Now you really need more than that."

Article continues with the link provided.

[I'm no Picasso]

[morrisonhotel]

[reactionary]

But again, we're talking about UCLA, not comparing costs between Oxford and Harvard.

RESIDENTS of California don't pay that much to go to a UC. It's getting higher, yes, but it's still a good deal compared to many other places in the country and the world.

Can an American get "free tuition" in a European country? Usually that sort of thing is offered to citizens or residents.

are there no international student fees at public universities in Europe? (UCs are cheap for residents, but not a very good deal for out-of-state or international students).

All this discussion of private school fees...it's really beside the point. In America, unlike maybe Canada and I don't know about elsewhere, there's a clear divide between public and private universities in terms of how they determine who pays what.

[reactionary]

http://www.fao.ucla.edu/publications/2009-2010%20UG%20&%20G%20budgets%20revised%20for%20web.pdf


I think the room and board for off campus residents is a bit high for 9 months. I didn't spend over $1000 on room and board every month. Maybe I lived like a student.

[conrad2]

[reactionary]

[morrisonhotel]

[Mr. BlackCat]

In defence of the woman in the video, she did say she has to drive something like 70 miles to UCLA. Having a car in LA is kind of a necessity, especially if she's covering that much ground. And as others have mentioned, finding a place near the school would probably be way more expensive.

I agree it doesn't have to be a new car, but without a car of some sort she wouldn't be able to get to school or her jobs.